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[Bob Semetka]

Lance,

Re "In a further reply to Lance"

I was referring to James & his reply to you.

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by Bob Semetka

Lance,

Re "In a further reply to Lance"

I was referring to James & his reply to you.

Ah, okay. I misread that. Thanks for clearing it up.

[Bob Semetka]

Lance,

You're welcome & also thanks for posting your thoughts. It was a fair representation of our transaction.

[Bob Semetka]

To Michael, (Tag: theshleps)

In fairness I don't have a problem with a comment being posted but it should include facts not just a vague recollection such as "I wasn't comfortable with the signature and cancelled the deal."

I realize you didn't say fake however a quote such as this may or could suggest or lead the reader in this forum to believe that I sell or have sold forged or ghost signed items & you probably meant no harm. For the record I have never sold fake signatures. I know what I have thru carefull study of the signers writing characteristics. The autographed items I have listed are authentic & unconditionally guaranteed to pass James Spence or PSA as noted on my web pages.

However I remember the transaction with you since it was the first & only time to date someone had questioned the authenticity or "wasn't comfortable" with of one of my signed items. It took me awhile but I located your mailed order sent to me with your CO address.

You purchased 11 autographed cards of various issues incl. a signed Sandy Koufax TCMA card & didn't "cancel the deal" as mentioned above. After receiving them your e-mail advised that you were not comfortable with it (a scan was included on my site which I believe you didn't click to view) & had shown it to a "knowledgeable" person with a negative response. I replied & explained it was signed in person, face to face at Copperstown during the HOF Inductions in the early 1980's. It was outside on the Otsego Hotel grounds on the side of the building where an area had been fenced off. People were calling for him to come over & he obliged. He took his time, was very relaxed & signed the TCMA card very neatly. When this explanation didn't suffice I offered another of the same w/ a somewhat rushed signature which I otained via mail from him. You agreed to the exchange & returned the original & I mailed you the replacement.

[Bob Semetka]

To Mike Richardson

No offence taken.

Over the past 8-10 years I have checked ebay, the web in general & numerous web sites on a regular basis regarding the availability of tough signatures I have incl. Chuck Templeton.

I have never seen a "Readably Available" or plentiful supply of his signature as suggested, except 1 here or there. As of today, Aug 11/12, there is 1 cut issued by a card co. avail on ebay, that's it & none where found on the net therefore they are "Scarce."

I agree this long time, established & knowledgeable dealer we are referring to with the C. Templeton $195 Index card is "well Known & respected." But lets be fair here, why whould he knowingly sell a "Readably Available" or plentiful signature at this price? Even if he allows for a discount from $195, how much would it be? He knows the signature is Scarce at a minimum & may consider it be Rare. He is telling you so with the price.

If you paid $22 for a signed TCMA card, that's exceptional & far below market value, a steal. The price may be due to the U.S. economy, a time in which people do drastic things during drastic times & in need of funds to pay bills. Or the seller is unfamiliar with the signature scarcity, hasn't checked or for that matter know what they are selling.

The $30 offered me $50 & 40% off is quite frankly ridiculously low.

[mr2686]

Bob, there were 3 card company cards of Templeton just the other day and one actually sold in late June for just over 18 dollars. Another one has been sitting at 49 and no bites...sorry, it's just not scarce. You're the seller, and you can believe and ask for anything you want, but you may be sitting on it for awhile.
...and to be fair, I don't know many 50 dollar autos that are scarce either.

[jgmp123]

Bob,
"In fairness" I did ask for a discount on the item and the proper response instead of the testy one you gave could have just been No. What's wrong with that? I have bought and sold a number items and know that in this hobby, if a guy gives you a deal, you most likely return to him for your next order.

If you have a business and you have customers who want to purchase an item, why wouldn't you want to have great service?

I asked for a $20 discount on an item that you probably still have and aren't going to move anytime soon and I'm sorry for that, but you can't expect everyone to pay the sticker price without asking for a better price first. You buy a car, do you pay the sticker price?

If you want to call me out directly, then that is fine...I'll let people decide for themselves if they would purchase from you based on the email record:

From: james graham
To: Bob Semetka
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: chuck templeton, s-81 (32-97, age 65) brklyn 10 games

I am in the US. Would you take $30 for the Signed Index Card? I can pay immediately.

From: Bob Semetka <bsemetka@bell.net>
Subject: Re: chuck templeton, s-81 (32-97, age 65) brklyn 10 games
To: "james graham" <jgmp123@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, June 11, 2012, 4:30 PM
Before we go any further ... No discounts ... never had to, the $ listed are fair ... if I were to allow for it the $ w/b higher to compensate ... to save time, you s/b asking about this in your 1st e-mail

From: james graham
To: Bob Semetka
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: chuck templeton, s-81 (32-97, age 65) brklyn 10 games

Just asking...No reason to get so upset.

From: Bob Semetka <bsemetka@bell.net>
Subject: Re: chuck templeton, s-81 (32-97, age 65) brklyn 10 games
To: "james graham" <jgmp123@yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 9:13 AM
I'm not upset, just telling you like it is .... you're obviously overly sensitive & suffering from ADD .... 1st, you didn't read that they are 3x5's (not cuts) .... Templeton was a tough signer & a difficult signature to obtain & you ask for a 40% discount ?? ... they don't grow on trees ... how many do you see out there ... do your homework

From: james graham
To: Bob Semetka
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: chuck templeton, s-81 (32-97, age 65) brklyn 10 games

Your "overly sensitive" comment just cost you a sale...I'll make sure everyone knows where not to go for autographs. In reference to my offer for the Chuck Templeton signature, true they don't grow on trees, but I also gotta believe people aren't beating down your door to purchase it.

Best of luck with your future business.

From: Bob Semetka <bsemetka@bell.net>
Subject: Re: chuck templeton, s-81 (32-97, age 65) brklyn 10 games
To: "james graham" <jgmp123@yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 11:25 AM
I knew you would say "just cost me a sale" .... quite frankly I wouldn't deal w/ you anyway, that's why I said what I did ... I to can chose who to sell to. Right !

Believe what you wish, I'm not concerned If they are or not beating down my door.

And by the way, was "Best of luck with your future business" a sincere comment?


I still don't see how the response: "just asking...no reason to get so upset" translate to me having ADD...

[Bob Semetka]

To Mike Richardson

Mike, could you please advise me the names of the 3 card companies selling a Chuck Templeton signature.
Thanks

[mr2686]

Bob, I meant 3 cards from card companies, not 3 individual companies...although both Donruss and Panini are represented in a # of 5, and a # of 7 series. I will add, that when talking about Templeton, single signed baseballs are scarce and harder to find, although our previously mentioned respected dealer does have one available at a premium price.