Very Sad News in Happy Valley. Paterno's legacy appears to end in scandal

[chaddurbin]

take that statue down

[HRBAKER]

the hubris here (PSU) is incredible

[barrysloate]

As I said on the other thread, shut the whole football program down for some significant period of time. All this was allowed to happen because of money, because football was the life blood of the university and nobody wanted to rock the boat. Shut it down, let them lose a few hundred million, and make certain that if anybody commits these crimes again he will get swift justice.

[drc]

I like sports and college sports, but I think it's ridiculous that a kid's game becomes the focus and power in a school of higher education.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

take that statue down

I agree. The wall behind the statue labels Paterno as a "humanitarian". That needs to go too.

[SetBuilder]

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[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

Take the statue down?

I hope one day someone takes your tombstone down with a sledgehammer.

If my family wastes money on a tombstone, feel free. Take the statue down.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

The statue came down yesterday and in addition the NCAA levied a very stiff punishment including:

- Four year postseason ban
- 10 initial scholarship losses and 20 per year for four years
- $60 million fine
- All wins from 1998-2011 vacated
- Five year probationary period


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...69--ncaaf.html

[barrysloate]

That is a very stiff penalty, but it was also a very brutal crime that was committed. I would say the penalty fit the crime.

[novakjr]

While all of this makes sense. I don't quite get the vacated wins..I know the NCAA wanted to take a crack at JoePa's win record(which is understandable), I honestly don't see the grounds for vacating the wins.. Sure, there was shady business all around, but nothing involving eligibility issues.

I don't have a horse in this race, but I'm just trying to stay objective here..

As much as the actions of Sandusky, JoePa and the rest of the governing body at PSU disgust me, I will still personally view JoePa as the record holder. Well, because he is.. Besides, it wasn't JoePa or the PSU officials that won those games, it was the players. Why should they be penalized here, just because it's the only thing that the NCAA can really do to JoePa. Maybe it's just me being anti-ncaa, but I think vacating the wins is a huge stretch for them. But then again, NO ONE will challenge this, because it's simply, just not that important, given everything else that has gone on...

And as far as the city of Grambling petitioning the NCAA to vacate the wins, just because they wanted their record back for Eddie, is F***ing disgusting..

[WhenItWasAHobby]

From what I read elsewhere, due to Paterno's vacated wins, Bobby Bowden is now the all-time leader in wins in Division I and Paterno drops to 17th in the all-time ranking.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by whenitwasahobby

- all wins from 1998-2011 vacated

stoo-pid

[drc]

In general I support taking away wins as punishment, because most of the NCAA football team crimes are done in the name of winning.

It's certainly true this instance is an unusual case. Usually wins are taken away when on the field players were ineligible-- a direct effect on the games.

[howard38]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

Take the statue down?

I hope one day someone takes your tombstone down with a sledgehammer.

If I ever cover up for a child molester you have my permission not only to destroy my tombstone but also to disinter my body and dump it in a cesspool.