Clemente Signature Value

[travrosty]

Well another reason not to send it in to jsa then. i have seen both psa and other companies "authenticate" multisigned pieces with 30 signatures or more on it even though there is no way they can "authenticate" all the signatures.

Some of the signatures are of players or people that were never famous, either minor league or less, so there are no exemplars to "authenticate" these names or even to know who these people actually are, yet the entire signed program or autograph book gets "authenticated" anyway.

You tell me how that happens?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-TIMERS-D...item53e2c9b234

here is an example. 54 signatures from an old timers boxing program. ALL the signatures "authenticated" by psa. HOW? I have also seen a PSA "authenticated" piece of Vancouver olympic winter athletes, many obscure but also signed by many paralympic athletes from the paralympic games. I am sure they have exemplars of all the paralympic athletes in their files. Give me a break. They "authenticated" all the signatures on the multisigned piece, but they really didn't "authenticate" them, did they?

As far as this old timers boxing program goes, many are the names of local or regional boxers of NO note. The old and experienced boxing collectors and dealers have NEVER heard of many of these names. No one knows who they are, yet the signatures are "authenticated". It is an inherent problem with the authenticators, giving a blanket authentication to names no one has even heard of.

If it is not about authenticating the signatures, each and every one individually, then what it is about?


I am not saying that in this case all the signatures can't be identified and authenticated, but it doesn't really matter. If they can't find an exemplar for one or two or five, the whole thing with all the signatures gets "authenticated" anyway. Seen it a million times.

If they don't want to authenticate 1 signature on a multisigned piece, ask them why not? And if they don't want to help you, don't patronize their business. Find someone who recognizes a customer for who they are, which is a valuable person who isn't required to shop at any one certain place.

Now please shoot me, the messenger, for bringing this to light.