Mantle signature opinions

[Mr. Zipper]

Hi folks:

Newbie here... by way of introduction my name is Steve and I've been collecting about 20 years. Mantle has always been somewhat of a struggle for me because it's so hard to assemble a large body of KNOWN authentics to "train the eye." This discussion has been very enlightening.

I just learned that one of my Mantles is not good and now am concerned about a second.

Here's one Richard Simon gave the thumbs down. It passes the litmus tests discussed here, but there must be something else...



Here's the one I am now concerned about. I purchased this in 2000 from a show dealer and it came with a COA stating it came from Gloria Rothstein (NY show promoter). It is on photostock that appears to be from the 80s. Previously, I would have bet almost anything it was good, but it doesn't have the "flicks" discussed here. The "c" and the "n" seem to be okay though.



It compares favotably to this PSA autehticated piece of the same pose.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mickey-Mantle-si...item336343f165

Thoughts?

Thanks!