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I don’t care to get into full detail as I think it has little bearing on the real issue that lay within the email string which was accidentally sent. <br />\n <br />\nBasically Scott Elkins had issues with me being involved as a key member of the Chan investigation and felt I was taking undo credit. This is of course silly as I was the direct link to the FBI and it was my inspection of the cards which gave the needed evidence to visit Mr. Chan which of course lead to the snowballing of unfortunate events regarding him and the site T206museum.com.<br />\n <br />\nI was very clear on the team effort in my post which can be seen here.<br />\n <br />\n<font color="red">http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=112134</font><br />\n <br />\nI have no explanation as to why Mr. Elkins has issue with a positive thing done by a team of collectors for the good of the hobby but clearly he does.<br />\n <br />\n <br />\n <br />\nIt’s very clear that Mr. Elkins has issue with me and others which is very apparent by browsing his site above. I have no doubt he harbors anger with me as he has made all too clear. I have had my shots all chicken shots but he has had more than enough payback and I’m fine with it. I have little doubt a lot of this comes from the banning from Full Count in which I had nothing to do with the moderators made that move. It just happened Scott and I were in the mix at the time. While I find a lot of the stuff as vile venting and uncalled for vulgarity and false accusations he does have his rights to speak free as do we.<br />\n <br />\n <br />\n<font color="red"><b>HOWEVER I ASK ALL OF A YOU A PERSONAL FAVOR I DON’T WANT THIS TO BE THREAD ABOUT SHOTS ABOUT ELKINS AND CHICKENS/UNDERPRINTS ETC. SO PLEASE CHECK THOSE AT THE DOOR PLEASE. I DON’T WANT THE REAL PURPOSE OF THIS POST TO BE LOST IN THE MIX OF CHEAP HUMOR WHICH I’M GULITY OF MYSELF FROM TIME TO TIME. </b></font><br />\n <br />\n <br />\nRecently on the other main baseball card forum (Full Count) Kevin Saucier insinuated that what we had done as a team Jim, Dan, Rob, FBI and I was not really needed as he assumed it was common knowledge to him and not worthy of discussing. <br />\n <br />\n<font color="red">"Perhaps I am a little naive but I thought most collectors knew they were altered. I saw them on the t206museum was immediately suspicious and never really followed them. Considered it somewhat of a joke and a no-brainer. Feel the same about most of the stamped backed cards. Just "way" too easy to do!Now that I read the stories I am shocked to find that collectors were spending serious money these overprints. Hope they all get their money back."</font><br />\n <br />\nJim and Dan and myself disagreed Kevin did return and apologize that it was not meant in that way etc. Which we accept or at least I do as I will not speak for Dan and Jim.<br />\n <br />\nNow that you have a bit of background we can move to the point of my post. <br />\n <br />\nKevin Saucier had recently emailed Scott Elkins asking him if he could ask Jim and Dan to lay off him. <br />\n <br />\n <br />\n <br />\n<font color="red">-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '- Original Message -' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '- </font><br />\n<font color="red">From: Kevin S. </font><br />\n<font color="red">To: Scott Elkins </font><br />\n<font color="red">Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 3:44 PM</font><br />\n<font color="red">Subject: RE: He\'s at it again!</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="red">Perhaps you can send a quick email to Dan and Jim so they can get off the Wonka brow beat Kevin band wagon. I expect this kind of stuff from Jon but not from Dan. </font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="red">I am just trying to fly below the radar and keep a very low profile. Besides they have no idea what I did or did not know about the investigation of this card.</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="red">Oh...btw, outstanding job! You and Jim are the guys who really did all the work.</font><br />\n <br />\n__________________________________________________  ____________<br />\n <br />\n <br />\nThis is crazy because I only responded after Jim and Dan responded and we all basically said the same thing. If he knew all along why not bring it up etc.<br />\n <br />\nHere’s where this gets very scary to myself and many others I have run this by.<br />\n <br />\nIn the same email Scott forwarded from Kevin he left the full string of emails between Scott and Kevin dating as far back as April 2nd 2008. Upon reading the entire string I was shocked to read the following string and almost fell out of my chair with disgust and shock!<br />\n <br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue"><font color="red">________________________________________</font><br />\n<font color="blue">From: <a href="mailto:joejackson1919@comcast.net">joejackson1919@comcast.net</a></font><br />\n<font color="blue">To: <a href="mailto:onlychild@hotmail.com">onlychild@hotmail.com</a></font><br />\n<font color="blue">Subject: T206</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:42:15 -0700</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">Hi Kevin,</font><br />\n<font color="blue">I hope all is well your way! I was wondering if you are still inspecting cards for people. I have a T206 with a United Cigars ad on the back that is printed UNDER the Sweet Caporal ad. Anyway, to make a long story short, some of the Net 54ers are trying to say it is printed OVER the ad and simply a back stamp overprint. </font><br />\n<font color="blue">I was wondering if I could send this card to you if it does not sell and get your opinion on it - overprint or underprint? I will pay whatever fee is associated with the service.</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Here is a link to the auction</font><br />\n<font color="blue"><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&amp;item=160277961170" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160277961170</a></font><br />\n<font color="blue">Thanks in advance!</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Scott Elkins</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '- Original Message -' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '- </font><br />\n<font color="blue">From: Kevin S. </font><br />\n<font color="blue">To: Scott </font><br />\n<font color="blue">Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:13 PM</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Subject: RE: T206</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Hi Scott,</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">Yeah I looking at that thread yesterday. Those guys are beyond cruel. Got pissed reading that whole mess.</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">Sure I\'ll look at it. I don\'t charge anything, never have...and I\'ve looked at thousands of cards. Collectors are funny, those that send cards regularly show gratitude in other ways because they know I won\'t take a cent....I\'m just glad I can help! </font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">Good timing, last year or so I have been studying T206 backs and the printing. Just send it over, I\'ll give you an honest opinion:</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">All the best,</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Kevin</font><br />\n<font color="blue">__________________________________________________  _____________________</font><br />\n<font color="blue">From: <a href="mailto:joejackson1919@comcast.net">joejackson1919@comcast.net</a></font><br />\n<font color="blue">To: <a href="mailto:onlychild@hotmail.com">onlychild@hotmail.com</a></font><br />\n<font color="blue">Subject: Close Up</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:20:01 -0700</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Kevin,</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Here is a close up I just took at 800% with my scanner. I am going to try and post this pic in the auction (if it is not too large for eBay). One should definitely be able to tell more about the back with this pic (fingers crossed it works on eBay!).</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Best Regards,</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Scott</font><br />\n<font color="blue">-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '- Original Message -' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '- </font><br />\n<font color="blue">From: Kevin S. </font><br />\n<font color="blue">To: Scott </font><br />\n<font color="blue">Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:12 PM</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Subject: RE: Close Up</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Scott,</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">And here I thought you liked me because I\'m a disabled AF vet.</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">I think it\'s safe to say that the word "clowns" should be replaced with "assholes". Before they judge others, some should take a good long look in the mirror. </font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">Our secret - I have never sold an altered card but for those few "true asses" on 54, I have made sure that each already has or will have an altered card in their collection (some more than one)....it will be their guess as to which one. I\'ll tell them exactly that some day. Again...I didn\'t make a penny (it actually cost me) but well worth it <img src="forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />.</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">Have to say with that close up scan, it\'s looking very favorable. I can see the SC over the cigar print. I\'ll save my final opinion for when I see it live but it looks like a no-brainer.</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">Some friendly advice...perhaps you should tone down your ebay listing with less personal statements. Wouldn\'t want to see it pulled or give them more fuel for the fire. Just a thought.</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">All the best,</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">Kevin </font><br />\n<font color="blue">________________________________________</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">From: <a href="mailto:joejackson1919@comcast.net">joejackson1919@comcast.net</a></font><br />\n<font color="blue">To: <a href="mailto:onlychild@hotmail.com">onlychild@hotmail.com</a></font><br />\n<font color="blue">Subject: This has your name written all over it!</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:55:06 -0700</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">Hee Hee</font><br />\n<font color="blue"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/2910100596/in/set-72157607705122913/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvind...7607705122913/</a></font><br />\n<font color="blue">Regards,</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Scott</font><br />\n<font color="blue">-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '- Original Message -' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '- </font><br />\n<font color="blue">From: Kevin S. </font><br />\n<font color="blue">To: <a href="mailto:joejackson1919@comcast.net">joejackson1919@comcast.net</a> </font><br />\n<font color="blue">Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:48 AM</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Subject: RE: This has your name written all over it!</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">Hi Scott,</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">I wish...but no. Although I can make many or some of the colors disappear and come close, I don\'t know of a way to keep the yellows, name, borders and the light shades. Yellow ink is about the 2nd to go. I\'ve tried man many times to recreate this and can\'t come close to the detail.</font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">Kevin</font><br />\n<font color="blue">________________________________________</font></font><br />\n <br />\n <br />\n <br />\n <br />\n <br />\n<font color="red"><b>IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, THIS IS THE PART YOU NEED TO READ VERY CAREFULLY!</b></font><br />\n <br />\n<font color="blue">“Our secret - I have never sold an altered card but for those few "true asses" on 54, I have made sure that each already has or will have an altered card in their collection (some more than one)....it will be their guess as to which one. I\'ll tell them exactly that some day. Again...I didn\'t make a penny (it actually cost me) but well worth it <img src="forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /> .”</font><br />\n<font color="blue">Kevin Saucier</font><br />\n <br />\nIt is no secret that myself and many others have questioned Kevin as to his motives and open interest in altered cards. Kevin has always taken the stance that this is for the good of the hobby and done to educate the collectors. For the most part we all have accepted that some including myself have asked why Kevin’s opinion should count over that of the established businesses such as SGC and PSA. Some have also asked why the overall secrecy and nebulous nature of his posts. <br />\n <br />\nHere are my main issues which I would like to see Kevin address here right away? As this has a scary parallel to Chan showing off work, hyping activities etc. Although Chan did this from anonymity vs. Kevin in here and in our faces.<br />\n <br />\n <br />\n1.    Why would Kevin if he is a good guy admit to planting if you will fraudulent or altered cards in select individual’s collections? Not only saying it’s been done but explains that there was cost involved and this was a directed attack at certain individuals.<br />\n <br />\n <br />\n <br />\n2.    When Scott laughed and asked if the current card which happens to be in the collection of a fellow board member was a creation of Kevin’s. Why did Kevin reply “I wish” above he wishes he was responsible for fraudulent activities and doctored cards to fellow collectors why?<br />\n <br />\n <br />\nI have provided many past links of discussion that have been about Kevin and his services/talents or that he has been a major part of.<br />\n <br />\n <br />\n<a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1181256381/last-1181706689/blank+FRONTS+for+t206+or+others-" target="_blank">http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...206+or+others-</a><br />\n <br />\n<a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1192226859/last-1192465335/Dinner+With+Kevin+Saucier" target="_blank">http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...+Kevin+Saucier</a><br />\n <br />\n<a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1184036351/last-1184174357/Kevin+Saucier-+You+may+still+be+in+luck" target="_blank">http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...ill+be+in+luck</a>.<br />\n <br />\n<a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1189948702/last-1190474341/Irrational+Exuberance+Low+Number++High+Grade+1933+Goudeys" target="_blank">http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...e+1933+Goudeys</a><br />\n <br />\nTalks about cards he altered getting past graders...<br />\n <br />\n<a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1195395461/last-1195779394/Kevin+Saucier+-+Adding+Value" target="_blank">http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...-+Adding+Value</a><br />\n <br />\n<a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1192410692/last-1192492122/How+to+Soak+a+Card....and+what+to+look+for" target="_blank">http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...at+to+look+for</a><br />\n <br />\n<a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1171998170/last-1179184518/misprinted+caramel+cards" target="_blank">http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...+caramel+cards</a><br />\n <br />\n<a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1221049853/last-1221413956/Kevin+Saucier+Has+Spoken" target="_blank">http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...ier+Has+Spoken</a><br />\n <br />\n <br />\n <br />\nFacts, openly admits to doctoring cards and placing them into the hobby and certain collections. Has been a self proclaimed expert has reviewed peoples valuable collections and items. Has continually offered services to major auction houses. <br />\n <br />\n <br />\nWhen the original recipient of the email brought up the quote the response from Kevin was that the comment was an innocent inside joke about Harris cards I own…I find this absurd I own 2 Harris cards and have openly discussed them here<br />\n <br />\n<a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1229567941/last-1232589635/Submitted+118+T206+PSA+8+for+review" target="_blank">http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...A+8+for+review</a><br />\n <br />\n <br />\nThis was an unsolicited admission not a joke IMO. Please collectors be aware that it’s not always the folks in the shadows that can be up to no good.<br />\n <br />\nNow I have no proof Kevin has done this short of his admission above but that alone begs the question why would one ever say such a thing?<br />\n <br />\nUnless Kevin has a real good explanation I’m very cautious of him and what he may have leaked out into the hobby as of today based on those comments. 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pd[723127] = '<!-' + '- post #723127 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit723127" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post723127" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=723127&amp;postcount=3" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount723127" name="3"><strong>3</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post723127"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				05-12-2009, 05:03 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=21"><img src="image.php?u=21&amp;dateline=1302372566"   alt="slidekellyslide\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_723127">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=21">slidekellyslide</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="slidekellyslide is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_723127", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nDan Bretta\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Apr 2009</div>\r\n					<div>Location: Lincoln, Nebraska</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 6,145\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_723127">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_723127">\r\n			\r\n			An ugly situation turns much uglier.  This is definitely a buyer beware hobby and if anything the last few weeks/months has taught us that it\'s far more important to do your own homework and not rely on the grading companies.   I think it\'s time to assume a good number of cards in this hobby have been altered and are already residing in holders.  The obvious fakes (to those with knowledge) ie the black OM overprints and the T206 Doyle PSA have to mean that many other not so obvious cards have also slipped past the graders.  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This is crazy stuff.  I think the sad truth is that it permeates all area of the hobby and probably all hobbies where money is involved.  </div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Great point and so true. It\'s everywhere. 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pd[723169] = '<!-' + '- post #723169 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit723169" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post723169" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=723169&amp;postcount=7" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount723169" name="7"><strong>7</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post723169"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				05-12-2009, 07:02 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=391"><img src="image.php?u=391&amp;dateline=1601308951"   alt="HRBAKER\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_723169">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=391">HRBAKER</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="HRBAKER is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_723169", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nJeff\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: May 2009</div>\r\n					<div>Location: Somewhere</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 5,255\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_723169">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_723169">\r\n			\r\n			"Great point and so true. It\'s everywhere. Sadly."<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnywhere money is (and great amounts of it), "it" is too.  I fear a much higher % of graded cards are altered than any of us would like to believe.  It is sort of like the "steroids" of card collecting.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=723169" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 723169 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_723169_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">HRBAKER</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=391">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=391" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to HRBAKER</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=391" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by HRBAKER</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 723169 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #723169 -' + '->';
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It is sort of like the "steroids" of card collecting.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>And yet we keep buying, don\'t we?  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I questioned your expertise and motives as to why we all should take your posts as gospel. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI also asked many times why your opinion rules over third party graders. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nNo I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s as easy to see why. I would never lie about doing fraudulent acts because someone bummed me out occasionally on a forum. There&#8217;s a whole board above in which several of us get ragged on really heavy&#8230;don&#8217;t believe me type Leon&#8217;s name into Google.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nYet I don&#8217;t see anyone of us making any such outlandish claims, or little white lies as you say.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n&#8220;BTW...posting personal emails, regardless of the subject matter, is just uncalled for.&#8221;<br />\r\n<br />\r\nDisagree once again emails posting that you think Wonka&#8217;s a douche or I dont like Wonka. I agree no need to be on this board take it off line and get over it. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nEmails in which a self proclaimed expert who has spent years on this board posting creations and bragging about getting cards past 3rd party graders, making outlandish admissions of fraudulent activity. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThat 100% belongs on here&#8230;I don&#8217;t buy blowing off steam and white-lie you and Scott were discussing your disgust with the response about the underprint Scott owns from the folks here. And if this lie or joke was directed at me please point out where in this thread I upset you&#8230;.funny I never had a single post in the thread&#8230;.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1221049853/last-1221413956/Kevin+Saucier+Has+Spoken" target="_blank">http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...ier+Has+Spoken</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\nSo I understand you were mad at me or net54 and made incriminating comments and lies to another person in an offline email because you were upset&#8230;.right?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThis ranks up there with I made these for &#8220;Showmanship&#8221; I never meant to sell them&#8230;.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAlso wishing you had put fake cards in a fellow board members collection is also due to being mad.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBlown away that I\'m the only one shocked by this load. Funny we get pitchforks and torches and baracade Chan into a corner..yet Mastro and auction houses get away with bloddy murder and we contiune to turn a blind eye. 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pd[723198] = '<!-' + '- post #723198 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit723198" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post723198" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=723198&amp;postcount=12" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount723198" name="12"><strong>12</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post723198"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				05-12-2009, 08:08 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=135"><img src="image.php?u=135&amp;dateline=1241134539"   alt="jmk59\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_723198">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=135">jmk59</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="jmk59 is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_723198", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nJoann\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Apr 2009</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 201\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_723198">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_723198">\r\n			\r\n			Hmmm.  Not sure what to make of this.  I\'ve been neither a particular doubter nor fan of Kevin and what he has talked about in the past.  But this - don\'t look good. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nRandom thoughts, struggling for order:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe first thing that comes to mind is that Kevin has held himself out as a defender of the hobby against alterations.  This isn\'t like Joe Schmoe said he was going to sneak altered cards into certain collections.  It\'s not even Joe Schmoe that said he was a great card alterer.   Kevin has particularly said that the reason for starting web sites and posting on various boards was to try to protect the hobby.  How does that square with the comment about putting fakes in some collections?  It\'s vaguely like (not exactly like, but similar) the t206museum offering COA\'s.  Protecting the hobby against fraud.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnother comparison to t206museum (just since it is on everyone\'s mind right now - not saying the two cases are directly parallel).   t206 put altered cards out on a public website, for all to see and debate and pick apart - a visible attempt to snare whatever generic fish swam by. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nKevin\'s claims of putting altered cards out there aren\'t broad and generic to the public.  He specifically targets individuals that he feels have crossed him or pissed him off.  Singling out specific persons seems shadier - or at least like a different motive.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nCould he have done it?  Shoot, most of his posts have centered around his ability to alter cards in undetectable ways and fool even the most advanced and professional collectors, graders and dealers.  So by his own words, he could have done it - at least as to the alteration part.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI\'m also having a hard time with the two explanations?  First it was explained as a joke, then as a heated comment.   From reading the email string, it seems like neither.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nHeated comments tend to be threats, not statements of a past act.  Whether as a joke or heated comment, it seems like it would be more along the lines of "Well I could this that or the other thing to these guys, and maybe someday I will!"   It doesn\'t seem really common to me that, as a heated comment, someone would claim to have already done something.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIt also doesn\'t seem to have been a heated discussion in general (assuming that all parts are there).  I\'ve seen Scott Elkins in heated discussions.  He has a very passionate writing style that makes it impossible to miss when he is mad at something - using capital-letter phrases, and being very descriptive as to what has him pissed off.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI don\'t see that Scott is at all heated in this chain.  More like some side comments about others, but in general the context seems far more focused on the actual underprint card he and Kevin were discussing.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnd the one email that contains the comment doesn\'t seem to follow at all - the topic sort of comes out of the blue.  Don\'t know what that means - just that it does not seem consistent with either a joke or a heated comment.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI don\'t know what it all means, just that it doesn\'t look good for someone that has claimed (and backed it up with demonstrations) to be able to make undetectable alterations but has also stated repeatedly that it is to protect the hobby.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe only thing that keeps me from thinking it actually happened is the practical problem of trying to steer one specific card into the collection of one specific person.  That\'s the only loose thread left in my mind.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nNot good.   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Sorry for another long post, but I just finally put my finger on exactly what bothers me so much about this and about the t206museum thing.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nFor t206m, I am exactly - exactly! - the person that could have been harmed by something like that if I had been financially able to get in that game.  I\'ve collected since 1998 or 1999 or so.  I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about cards, but am in that intermediate stage of expertise that would have led me right to those cards.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nLike I know enough to know that the black overprint would be extremely rare, but am still too green to know the history of the red overprints, the fact that the blacks all started appearing in 2000 (when I was still so new this would not have been on my radar).   I\'m not the immersed expert that had fuller context.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnd similarly with this Kevin thing.  I\'m unnerved because if someone like Kevin wanted to get an altered card into my collection, he probably could - and maybe an expensive one too.  I\'ve progressed enough to think I know what\'s good and bad, but up against really sophisticated alterations that fool graders - not a chance.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI am really uncomfortable reading that someone would make even a casual threat like that.  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pd[723969] = '<!-' + '- post #723969 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit723969" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post723969" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=723969&amp;postcount=17" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount723969" name="17"><strong>17</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post723969"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				05-15-2009, 06:23 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=43"><img src="image.php?u=43&amp;dateline=1695831996"   alt="Peter_Spaeth\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_723969">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=43">Peter_Spaeth</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Peter_Spaeth is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_723969", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nPeter Spaeth\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Apr 2009</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 34,223\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_723969">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				<strong>In my opinion</strong>\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_723969">\r\n			\r\n			This may go against the prevailing view, but I don\'t like the notion of reproducing private emails, even with good intentions.  Not only does it seem to me to violate the privacy of the sender, but it is very easy to misinterpret what is said in such communications or at the very least take them out of context.  It IS a rule here for a good reason in my view.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=723969" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 723969 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_723969_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Peter_Spaeth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=43">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 723969 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #723969 -' + '->';
pd[723972] = '<!-' + '- post #723972 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit723972" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post723972" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=723972&amp;postcount=18" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount723972" name="18"><strong>18</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post723972"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				05-15-2009, 06:52 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=38"><img src="image.php?u=38&amp;dateline=1242229081"   alt="calvindog\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_723972">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=38">calvindog</a>\r\n					\r\n<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_online.gif" alt="calvindog is online now" border="0" />\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_723972", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nJeffrey Lichtman\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Apr 2009</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 6,091\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_723972">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_723972">\r\n			\r\n			Peter, you might have a decent point if it were Elkins who posted the email: clearly Kevin meant for his discussions about committing fraud on Net 54 members to remain private between the two of them.  Once Elkins released it to others, what obligation did John have to keep it private?  And surely Kevin\'s stated desire to defraud Net 54 members trumps any privacy interest of his.<br />\n<br />\nPlus I\'m sure the many highly trained lawyers who post on Net 54 would be rushing to Kevin\'s side to file a lawsuit if such a claim existed.  But of course we both know that won\'t happen.<br />\n<br />\nFinally, Kevin came on here and gave his explanation so all\'s well that ends well.  I would suggest to Kevin that instead of whining about his private email being splashed here for all to see he should probably come up with a better explanation as to why he felt it appropriate to write about his glee in defrauding Net 54 members -' + '- and his disappointment over not defrauding me.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/sets" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/sets</a>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by calvindog; 05-15-2009 at <span class="time">06:54 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=723972" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 723972 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_723972_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">calvindog</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=38">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=38" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to calvindog</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/sets/">Visit calvindog\'s homepage!</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=38" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by calvindog</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 723972 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #723972 -' + '->';
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