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Old 05-21-2008, 06:05 PM
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Default Help needed- does this card exist?

Posted By: Anthony N.

I've been working on a set for about 5 years now, and there is a card I have never come across. I'm hoping someone here will be able to tell me if it doesn't exist, or might have a scan to prove it does.
The set is the W711-2 Harry Hartman Reds Team Issue. From all indications it was issued late in 1940, and after initially noting it as a 1941 set it seems to be accepted it was issued a bit earlier.
In the Krause guide and in some Becket editions there is a card entitled "Debt of Gratitude to Wm Koehl Company". This card also appears in the set on the PSA registry. SGC does not have a registry for this set.
Neither PSA nor SGC has ever graded a copy of this card, according to their pop reports as of this morning. I've spoken to about a dozen collectors knowledgable with this set and none of them have ever seen it- and several expressed strong doubts it exists.
The set was printed on at least 2 press runs. 2 of the cards appear with and without "World Champions" noted. Below is an uncut sheet, and as you can see there is no empty space on the sheet, and none of the cards depicted are any less scarce than any other, with the exception of the World Champion variations.
If anyone has a scan of the card in question I would greatly appreciate seeing it, either posted here or to my email address. Any information contrary to its existence would be equally appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.

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