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Posted By: FYS

"I wouldn't say that I don't care... I do.
But not nearly enough to obsess over it as if it were the card collecting equivalent of the Kennedy assasination."

It is somewhat hard to take with a grain of salt, assuming that it was originally holdered being known that it was trimmed. Simply put, that is fraudulent. CU is a public company and if the icon of the hobby and the most expensive card in the hobby is marketed knowingly as a fraud, I see it as not being much different then some of the corruption that went on at Tyco, Enron, Delphi etc.

It also makes it even more difficult to swallow when PSA currently trumps skill, assurance, trust, objectivity, accuracy, most knowlegable and consistent in their recent marketing sheets. Finally my personal favorite, "If you are a known seller who does not use PSA, your credibility may suffer." That is quoted from a brochure they send with their collectors kits.

Very few people outside of this board have any idea whatsoever that the Wagner even has any constroversy surrounding the card. I would bet money that if a pole was taken on Beckett with this question, the vast majority would have never even heard of this. The Beckett boards are actually the main grouping of the majority of the general collecting public. Anyone born from 1965 on has had Beckett as a big part of their initial collecting life. If the allegations are true, I view it as a bit tragic that so many pure collectors that have a great deal of respect for cards, grading and PSA are potentially being dupped.