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BrianShould be 'their' hands, not 'there' hands. This use of language isn't up for debate.
No reason to be sorry. You believing something different than I do will not diminish the hobby at all -- for either of us.
For my T212-1s, I will collect anything with a vintage cut -- even if PSA or SGC don't see it that way. I don't call it a vintage cut to make it seem better than it is. I call it a vintage cut because that is the more accurate term. I hope that you don't hate it that I make that distiction -- if you do, then so be it.
There are people that use different words for their cards -- no big deal. I can agree to disagree.
A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't a square.