WOW! T206 Wagner PSA graded.

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Posted By: Pete

Hi board members,

I have been following this board on and off for about a year now and have learned so much, and for that I tank you ALL. I saw this post and finally decided to dive into pool with you all. I am not an expert by any means when it comes to spotting reprints etc. When I first saw some posts here about the goudey reprints I had to run to my Ruth and iron horse and look for the signs after I was able to verify they were real I thought about all the bids I had lost and that for all I know MY LOSING was probably the best luck I have had in a while LOL, so now I am more educated and would ask the seller before I bought anything of real value again. All this trimming, bleaching, and card restoring just leaves one to think eBay is mine field. Collecting through the late 70's early 80's as a kid left us with only having to look for magic marker around our 1971 topps edges. Then came the Pete Rose rookie reprints and Don Mattingly rookies to boot. I have seen a lot and now even though this seller is honest, the whole concept is not. Selling a gun to a maniac when you suspect he is a maniac does not leave your hands clean after he kills someone. Also having a printing press in your garage counterfeiting money, just because you give a million $$$ fake cash to your friend and telling him its fake does not make that right either. The card is a fake, the holder is a fake, the label is a fake, and psa has the number in the database so that makes it what maybe real? NO. Someone out there who has a real Wagner that paid for it and the grading is now being exploited, if PSA kills that number than what happens to him? Think about this and I feel you will be concerned.... You folks have posted numerous pictures of your cards in good faith between friends; you have spent tons of cash to get things graded. What is to stop someone from recording all those numbers, producing fake labels and then selling cards like this using your good PSA number? One person on this board talked about the typeface being wrong, that is child splay to correct. I am sure that the equipment psa uses to print those labels is nothing special. There are several color printers on the market that could color match the label and any designer could match the font. I do not know what anyone can do to stop things like this but as you are all seeing before your eyes it has been done. My guess is that we are going to see more with lesser value cards that few would question its authenticity. At this point what real assurance do you have that a PSA graded card is the real deal, knowing the cases can be opened, the database can be cross referenced and labels can be reprinted. Another – for Grading and + for the card show and dealer.



Thank You,
Pete