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Old 03-21-2023, 04:23 PM
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Right you are Pat, these should be pre-1919 and T213-3. What I didn't know was whether the side of of Jon's pack had the 20 for 5 on it, but looking at the one you posted more closely I see that they are the same pack, so Jon's does have that on the side.

Mine still has the cigarettes but no card - which might explain the state of the wrapper.

I will measure it -- and also loupe it for the last number in the year. I recall not being able to see anything apart from the 191 part and the bit of printing further to the right.

The larger pack that I saw seemed like it had potential to have held type 1s in it - I wish I had taken a picture. I might be misremembering this too. I will see if I can track it down.

Total speculation, but if T213-1 was a New Orleans-only issue and T213-2 was Louisiana and Texas it might explain the greater number of T213-2s out there.
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