Be honest, what card "buzzword"...

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by zljones

That is pretty much the case with 707 sportscards

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[Jcfowler6]

Well Loved.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by kcohen

blazer!!!!

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[Runscott]

Originally Posted by zljones

That is pretty much the case with 707 sportscards

Really? I always heard the opposite about him. Here's what might be happening: Someone doesn't like the high BIN, so rather than making a legitimate offer, they try to 'make a point' by offering something ridiculously low. The seller responds by countering with the BIN or a dollar less - his own 'point' right back at you.

The high BIN thing is somewhat of a game that ebay has forced on sellers. If it didnt work, I'm sure 707 SC would try something different. I was called some of the worst filth I've read on the internet the last time I mentioned questionable ebay seller habits - I'll spare you the redneck vernacular

Sorry about getting off-topic a little.

edited to add: regarding 707, make a fair offer if you see something you like - I've been told that he, specifically, is very open to fair offers.

[dabigyankeeman]

"Looks better than what its graded".

[novakjr]

Scott, I've never had any problem with my best offers to 707 either. I actually found them to be pretty reasonable to work with...I will admit that they're BINs are somewhat high, but agree that if it's been working for them, then who am I to complain.

Originally Posted by Runscott

Really? I always heard the opposite about him. Here's what might be happening: Someone doesn't like the high BIN, so rather than making a legitimate offer, they try to 'make a point' by offering something ridiculously low. The seller responds by countering with the BIN or a dollar less - his own 'point' right back at you.

The high BIN thing is somewhat of a game that ebay has forced on sellers. If it didnt work, I'm sure 707 SC would try something different. I was called some of the worst filth I've read on the internet the last time I mentioned questionable ebay seller habits - I'll spare you the redneck vernacular

Sorry about getting off-topic a little.

edited to add: regarding 707, make a fair offer if you see something you like - I've been told that he, specifically, is very open to fair offers.

[zljones]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Really? I always heard the opposite about him. Here's what might be happening: Someone doesn't like the high BIN, so rather than making a legitimate offer, they try to 'make a point' by offering something ridiculously low. The seller responds by countering with the BIN or a dollar less - his own 'point' right back at you.

The high BIN thing is somewhat of a game that ebay has forced on sellers. If it didnt work, I'm sure 707 SC would try something different. I was called some of the worst filth I've read on the internet the last time I mentioned questionable ebay seller habits - I'll spare you the redneck vernacular

Sorry about getting off-topic a little.

edited to add: regarding 707, make a fair offer if you see something you like - I've been told that he, specifically, is very open to fair offers.

I tried a offer once on a 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle, he was asking $1595 for one in poor condition, and it was in a rougher looking poor condition. I figured this thing is worth about 1000-1100 so those were my offers he countered with 1525 both times. That was waaaayyyy too high to pay. I then won an auction a few weeks later for a beautiful SGC 30 for $1636. It just seemed ridiculous that he would not come down.
If it happens to be that he does that to prove a point then I guess that can explain to same counter offer. I really hate when people get offended when I make a lowball offer, I am not trying to be a jerk I just want to save money. I have had experiences attempting to make deals with board members and they got upset at some of my offers, I had to beg for them to come back and talk to me LOL. The negotiating price thing makes me nervous, I wish it would be as smooth as Pawn Stars and no one got offended.
But now that you guys told me you had good experiences with 707, perhaps I will give it another shot. There is one of his items I have been drooling over and it's not priced super high, just too high, maybe I will try an offer and see what happens, then if he takes it. I'm glad I brought this up because now I got some good advice, I hope it works. Wish me luck with my offer.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by zljones

I tried a offer once on a 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle, he was asking $1595 for one in poor condition, and it was in a rougher looking poor condition. I figured this thing is worth about 1000-1100 so those were my offers he countered with 1525 both times. That was waaaayyyy too high to pay. I then won an auction a few weeks later for a beautiful SGC 30 for $1636. It just seemed ridiculous that he would not come down.
If it happens to be that he does that to prove a point then I guess that can explain to same counter offer. I really hate when people get offended when I make a lowball offer, I am not trying to be a jerk I just want to save money. I have had experiences attempting to make deals with board members and they got upset at some of my offers, I had to beg for them to come back and talk to me LOL. The negotiating price thing makes me nervous, I wish it would be as smooth as Pawn Stars and no one got offended.
But now that you guys told me you had good experiences with 707, perhaps I will give it another shot. There is one of his items I have been drooling over and it's not priced super high, just too high, maybe I will try an offer and see what happens, then if he takes it. I'm glad I brought this up because now I got some good advice, I hope it works. Wish me luck with my offer.

Good luck. All of my dealings with him have been cheaper items, and have worked out well. A '51 Bowman Mantle isn't exactly the best card to use as a basis for judgement. It's one of those cards, where conventional rules go out the window. Eventually, some one will overpay for that card. So I imagine that thought probably played into his counter-offer.