Australian Ogdens Peter Jackson Card

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Posted By: D. Bergin

I'm kicking myself for forgetting to bid on this. I just don't see it pop up very often. Somebody got a bargain IMO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=220354988276

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Posted By: Anonymous

Nice. That was a bargain. I have owned a couple of those in the past, and the last one I sold in a lot worse condition went for over 3 times the amount.

They are tough to find, even in Australia.

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Posted By: boxingcardman

My wife says "Iforgot" should be my middle name but unlike making the bed or taking out the trash, I actually care about cards.

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Posted By: D. Bergin

I know you're not a big fan of overseas cards Adam but good catch if you won it.

David, I figured they couldn't be too common even in Australia or more would have surfaced in the internet age..........like the Les Darcy BDV cards.

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Posted By: boxingcardman

As I said, I forgot to bid. I even had the ebay reminder but I ignored it because something else was going on and I assumed I'd just remember to go back. Big mistake.

I don't hate overseas cards, I just don't trust that the supplies on many of them (esp. the British ciggie issues, Rekord and Panini) aren't being manipulated. I've actually got quite a few international cards, esp. when the boxer is one I need who isn't in an American set. Many of the prewar European Jewish fighters and athletes simply cannot be found elsewhere, e.g., Moise Boquillon, Young Perez, Danny Frush, Harold Abrahams, Harry Mitzler, etc.; and there are some really attractive cards too. That said, I'm definitey biased towards American issued cards.

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Posted By: D. Bergin

OK, we both forgot then.

If I was smarter and less old fashioned I'd use a sniping program instead of hoping I'd remember.

I'm not really worried about the manipulation of the British cards. By now it's fairly well known what's common and what's tougher.

The Panini's, like the Italian Post Office has always been erratic and all over the board though. Not sure I'd invest long term in even some of the supposed rarer sets. I wouldn't be surprised if cases of these were slowly being broken up by dealers as we speak.

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Posted By: boxingcardman

is that genius has its limits...Albert Einstein

Snipe programs are great; I use one. Of course, you have to remember to enter the item into it. D'oh!

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Posted By: David Hanvey

"David, I figured they couldn't be too common even in Australia or more would have surfaced in the internet age..........like the Les Darcy BDV cards."

Dave,
They are 1,000 times harder to find down here than the BDV cards. I could get a BDV Darcy card (or even all 6 of them) tomorrow if I tried hard enough. After finding the first two Ogden's Jackson cards pretty easily, I haven't been able to locate one in over a year !

That being said, I am still looking for that elusive Fitzsimmons N174. That's only been about a 5 year exercise

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Posted By: David Hanvey

And speaking of international cards, they just don't get the love they deserve. No doubt that some of those panini's that are considered rare probably aren't, but some other cards that should be getting the love just don't.

One Aussie example is the 1949 Vic Nuts Joe Louis card. The last couple I have seen sold for around $50, which to me is cheap as that card is tough, real tough. The whole Vic Nuts sportsmen set from 1949 is extremely hard to put together and it took me a couple of years to get the 7 boxers from the set. I have noticed that the only Aussie cards that get the prices they deserve are the "Aussie" N174's, or a 1922 Newcastle Darcy - that is unless me and Gary are after the same card and one of us pays $70 for a $10 card

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Posted By: D. Bergin

David,

Yes, the Victoria Nuts cards seem pretty tough. I sold the Joe Louis I had at the HOF show in New York for around $200 but it was in very nice condition.

Do you have a scan of an "Aussie" N174 you can show? Not sure I've even seen one before.

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Posted By: boxingcardman

It is a crappy one but...

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Posted By: Aaron Conyers

I hope to find a N174 Fitz as well. I expect it to be a long wait, and know of only the one example.

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Posted By: boxingcardman

there are quite a few 1 of 1 type cards. In some ways it makes boxing collecting fun since no one can really ever claim to own it all, but if you're trying to complete a set it can be a real drag.

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Posted By: Brent Butcher

All the best
Brent

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Posted By: Anonymous

Nice cards Brent. Damn I love that Slavin !

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Posted By: boxingcardman

Lou's older brother?

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Posted By: Brent Butcher

He was a well known Australian boxer. Fought Peter Jackson, Dooley and Slavin quite a few times in Australia.

He should have been in that N174 master list I sent you over a year ago...

Notice the difference in name locations on Slavin? Its the only N174 I know of where the name can be found in different locations within the same series.

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Posted By: Anonymous

I think Martin Costello was born in America (not sure if he had Aussie citizenship, like say Peter Jackson). He would have to be with a nickname liek "the Buffalo".

He did fight here for a while though before going back to the states to finish his career.

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Posted By: D. Bergin

Great cards Brent.

So is it the font style at the bottom that seperates the "exports" from the U.S. version N174's?

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Posted By: E, Daniel

"I have noticed that the only Aussie cards that get the prices they deserve are the "Aussie" N174's, or a 1922 Newcastle Darcy "

For me the most important aussie issue boxing card, super hard to find and not all that cheap when you get a chance to bid on one.