Fake Magee (Magie) on Ebay

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Posted By: Turner Engle

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-11-T206-MAGIE-MAGEE-ERROR-TOBACCO-BASEBALL-CARD_W0QQitemZ260137463900QQihZ016QQcategoryZ86840 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thought I would give everyone a heads up.

Turner Engle

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Posted By: Mark T

...here is a real one...From Heritage Auctions.


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Posted By: Mark T

Its funny how the seller has 100 % feedback. Seems like a good seller but he may not know its fake. I will send a message and see how he responds.

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Posted By: Joseph

How exactly DO these type of offerings occur? We have a seller who deals in sports cards and who clearly knows a true example of this piece is a special, rare, and valuable card. What I'm getting at is this: Are ANY of these auctions a true case of ignorance or are they all pure chutzpah?

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Posted By: Mark T

what reaction i get from him, i just sent him a very polite message...

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Posted By: Mark T

How do you know that it is a reprint? My client has thousands of cards dating from recent on back to the early 1900s. Many of the older cards had been authenticated and none of them ever came back as not being real. He was a pretty avid collector. It doesn't say reprint anywhere on it and when looking under a loop, it seems to have the same dot pattern that the other Piedmont cards have.
Thank you

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Posted By: Jim Dale

It would seem the print color on his name is different - I'm no expert but trying to learn and I've been looking at these two images trying to figure out the difference...hope the author pointing this out as a fake can tell us why?

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Posted By: Dave Hornish

Not only is the color wrong but the font is incorrect as well.

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Posted By: Dave F

There is also no factory and district listed on the back

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Posted By: Mark T

are trading emails, i think he firmly believes it to be real. He told me " then why don't it say reprint on it?"

Ha,Ha....

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

The front color is wrong

The type font is questionable

And, it looks like it has been re-backed (at least they attached a Piedmont 150 back on it).

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Posted By: Turner Engle

Hey guys,

Thanks for the responses so far.

When I first viewed the auction this morning, I noticed that the lettering of the "Magie, Phila. Nat'l" was off. It seems like it should be spread out much more along the bottom border, like a real Magie displays.

Also, Dave nailed it by saying there also was no sign of a factory # or a district located on the back.

Turner Engle

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Posted By: Mark T

the guy about no writing on the back. The guys name is Brian. Lets see what he says...

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Posted By: ErlandStevens

Could this be a previously uncatalogued Magie "no factory" variation. :)

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Posted By: Joseph

This card is in a slab with a PSA number. As Casey says, "You could look it up."

If it's a fake and they didn't grade it, PSA has a case for fraud. If it's a fake and PSA DID grade it, we all have a case for fraud. But that's highly unlikely.

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Posted By: T206Collector

Uh, the fake one is not PSA graded. The PSA 3 above is from a separate listing and was used as an authentic one from which to compare the fake.

In addition, if you cannot see why the fake one is fake then you should avoid all raw T206 card purchases until you learn more about this set. Apart from being the wrong font size, the font is brown, not black, on real T206 cards. It also does not help that this one is lime green, or that the back is missing critical information.

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Posted By: Mark T

I posted a real PSA 3 Magie from an auction to prove the Ebay Magie is a fake...


Also, he has a bidder now for the fake (poor guy)...

And the seller still has not responded when i showed him a real one and told him about the back.

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Posted By: Joseph

Ah...sorry. That's what happens when you try to do this in between actual work...

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

You say he has a bidder.....but, with this new Bid History feature that ebay has all we know is that
bidder's history and not who he is ?

In this case the lonely bidder has a profile # of less than 50.

I did own a real Magie and the only back this card is found with is a Piedmont 150 Factory 25.

TED Z

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Posted By: Mark T

the bidder has low feedback and only 50 % positive. Could be the seller bidding. Anyway you look at it, people will see this for what it is...

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Posted By: Adam

Auction was just ended.

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Posted By: Mark T

he realized it after i sent him a pic of the graded Magee.

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Posted By: Jim Dale

for the lessons...only thing I picked up on was the color of the print and if someone hadn't pointed it out I wouldn't have picked that up - but I'm learning. Good to know seller understands.

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Posted By: peter ullman

Jim...keep looking at more cards...that one'll stick out like a sore thumb!

pete in mn

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Posted By: Adam

All this talk of that fake Magie made me just list my real one!

p.s.- That's a "shameless plug" for my eBay auction, sorry.

Adam
(eBay seller ID: am76)