anyone know what this is

Archive · #1 03-26-2006, 09:01 PM

Posted By: rmacpa

anyone know what this is or has seen another player from this series?
(click on scan to enlarge)

Archive · #2 03-27-2006, 06:50 AM

Posted By: sam

i have no idea but the area beneath the shoes is
shaped similarly to the area below joe jackson's
shoes on his texas tommy card. perhaps a coincidence.

Archive · #3 03-27-2006, 07:56 AM

Posted By: Dan Koteles

if Iam not mistaken ,Frank Ward has or had a player
that looked similar to this card size and writing.
Nice looking & unique to say the least.

Archive · #4 03-27-2006, 08:51 AM

Posted By: fkw

Hi, I dont have anything like it. It is a nice piece though. It is sort of a cross between a Max Stein Postcard and a Texas Tommy (like Sam said). Is it blank back? What size?

Frank

Archive · #5 03-27-2006, 09:03 AM

Posted By: rmacpa

it has a blank back and, while i can't supply
exact measurements until i remove it from a safe
deposit box, it is larger than a type 1 texas tommy,
but approximately the same size as the texas tommy
card listed as a joe jackson proof with BLACK back
that ran in a hager auction 9 years ago. that card
was won by a denver area collector who paid 26k for it.
while i'm not sure the hager description was necessarily
accurate, it is the closest item in appearance to this card
that i have come across so far.

Archive · #6 03-27-2006, 09:56 AM

Posted By: Anson

I agree with Frank, it has attributes of both. However the trail probably leads closer to the Stein postcards as Tinker was done with Chicago (except for a really short stint) back in 1912. Regionally speaking, it would make more sense too.

Archive · #7 03-27-2006, 10:19 AM

Posted By: rmacpa

the stock is too thin to be considered a postcard.
the card is also larger than a standard postcard
and has a completely blank back.

Archive · #8 03-27-2006, 10:24 AM

Posted By: leon

I recently thought that a 1930's PC-Unc Cobb I had was not real as it was on fairly thin cardboard. It felt ike heavy crate paper. I sent it into SGC before I sold it, to get another opinion, and they thought it was good. I think it got put in a 40-50 holder. The stock was definitely flimsy too. My guess is this is some sort of trimmed (not fraudulently) postcard. I guess it could always be a cutout from somekind of ad piece too. Cool pic.. regards

Archive · #9 03-27-2006, 10:59 AM

Posted By: rmacpa

i'm thankful for the input as any information is appreciated.
my hope is to find evidence of another player from this series
for comparison of size, format, stock, etc. whatever it
eventually is determined to be. i will post the dimensions
of this item once i retrieve it.

Archive · #10 03-27-2006, 11:07 AM

Posted By: Todd

it appears that Joe is wearing a 1907 World Series uniform if that helps.

Archive · #11 03-27-2006, 11:43 AM

Posted By: Lyman

Below for comparison is an image of the Joe Jackson card from the E224 Texas Tommy set, courtesy of John Esch.

John has written a detailed article about the set that will run in the next (Issue #7, Spring 2006) issue of Old Cardboard magazine. It will include a full gallery for both subsets. An article abstract can be found at http://www.oldcardboard.com/misc/issue07/issue07.asp.