Another loser

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Posted By: botn

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=yankees-collector%21%21&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50

This jerk may have already been discussed here.

I sent him an e-mail asking if he was going to be selling more reprints in the future or would he consider getting a job instead of stealing from people.

Here is his reply. I guess he is not too happy with me.

From: Yankeesman888@aol.com
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:04:02 EDT
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #2740398062
To: botn@botn.com

What the hell are you talking about? My cards are real and I do have a job. Im a NY 6th Squad detective. Answer me this when I give you a call later will you pick up?

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Posted By: Hankron

Perhaps you should inform him that impersonating a police officer is a felony.

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Posted By: MW

The T206 Cobb that this crook is selling is laughable. So are his other reprinted cards. It doesn't surprise me that his email responses fit into the same genre.

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Posted By: TBob

to the appropriate New York City police department precinct and I'll let them take this guy's fraudulent misrepresentations to the DA if he is lying about being a police officer.

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Posted By: MW

Recent AOL Instant Messages:

BMWCrds [7:36 PM]: Greetings!
Yankeesman888 [7:36 PM]: hello
Yankeesman888 [7:37 PM]: are you Brian
BMWCrds [7:37 PM]: No. Just an employee
Yankeesman888 [7:37 PM]: oh
Yankeesman888 [7:37 PM]: what's up
BMWCrds [7:37 PM]: Are you really a NY 6th Squad detective?
Yankeesman888 [7:37 PM]: Yes, Why?
BMWCrds [7:38 PM]: What is your name?
Yankeesman888 [7:38 PM]: what can I do for you?
BMWCrds [7:38 PM]: I was wondering what your name was
Yankeesman888 [7:38 PM]: I can't give that info out online.
BMWCrds [7:38 PM]: Also, I was wondering why you sold reprinted cards as originals (on eBay)
Yankeesman888 [7:39 PM]: All cards are authentic, I offer money back gaurantee's to all by winner's
BMWCrds [7:39 PM]: Let's talk about the T206 Cobb you are selling
BMWCrds [7:40 PM]: (1) The background color is the wrong hue
BMWCrds [7:40 PM]: (2) The borders are the wrong width
BMWCrds [7:40 PM]: (3) The font is completely wrong
BMWCrds [7:40 PM]: How do you explain these discrepancies?
BMWCrds [7:41 PM]: ????
Yankeesman888 [7:41 PM]: I recently ran 3 private auctions for a '33 Sport kings Ty Cobb, and 2 '33 Goudey Babe ruth cards and recieved positive feedback. So before you start making false accusations and bring negative publicity towards you, Brian and SGC grading I advise you be aware of who it is your accusing.
BMWCrds [7:42 PM]: And who would that be?
BMWCrds [7:42 PM]: Name?
Yankeesman888 [7:42 PM]: Keep it up silly
BMWCrds [7:42 PM]: What is so secret about your name?
BMWCrds [7:43 PM]: ????

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Posted By: botn

Love it!!!!

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Posted By: MW

It appears that I'm the "lucky" winner of this seller's reprinted T206 Cobb.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2740369415

Any ideas on what type of feedback I should leave? All suggestions, creative or not, are welcome. I'll pick the best one and post it within the next day or two. Who says the Network54 forum isn't fun?

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Posted By: Kenny Cole

His name is Mark Kirchner. He's a 24 year old punk. Due to the efforts of another guy who he scammed, I've got his home address and his cell number. He runs two P.O. boxes and has checks for the fake cards he sends people made out to his wife/sister(?) Lauren. She's the one on eBay's "about me" page, but he's the one registered with eBay. He used to steal scans of real cards and then substitute fakes. Now I guess he's decided that its easier simply to list fakes and let eager bidders do the rest.

He took a guy for almost $5K on a fake '52 Topps Mantle. That guy got seriously unhappy, did a lot of research, and started emailing other bidders. Then he took another guy for $1,025 on some fake Jordan rookies. That's when yankeescollector!! went to the private auction format. He is now paying the first scammed guy back due, as I understand it, to a problem with having his fingerprints on the fake card. I imagine he probably now wears gloves when he puts those fake cards into the envelope. Kind of like Ohiotarheelsfan, he also says that you are trying to switch cards on him when you complain about receiving a fake.

There is also some indication that he lives with his mother and really doesn't want her to find out what he's doing. I am waiting for some additional information before I file the rest of my fraud complaints and hope to have it soon. After I finish filing with everyone I can think of, I'm going to send a certified letter to his home address, on my firm letterhead, and enclose copies of all the fraud complaints I've filed. Hopefully his mom will have to sign for it and get curious.

If He's NYPD's finest, then there is a serious problem in NY. I call BS on that. He's just another lying, cheating scammer. If I have my way, he'll spend the $800 he stole from me defending a mail fraud charge.

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Posted By: MW

More AOL Instant messages. Apparently a certain seller is being rather unappreciative. Oh well, you can't please everyone.

Yankeesman888 [8:22 PM]: I hope you plan on paying for that card you dummy.
BMWCrds [8:22 PM]: Still trying to decide
Yankeesman888 [8:22 PM]: YOU ARE ****ING PLAYING WITH FIRE
BMWCrds [8:22 PM]: Such language
BMWCrds [8:24 PM]: Can you tell me your name now?

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Posted By: MW

Yankeesman888 [8:33 PM]: YOUR GOING DOWN AND TELL BRIAN YOUR THE REASON WHY
BMWCrds [8:33 PM]: "Going down" in what way?
Yankeesman888 [8:33 PM]: YOU MESSED WITH THE WRONG PERSON BUDDY
BMWCrds [8:34 PM]: What do you plan on doing?
Yankeesman888 [8:34 PM]: AS IN "CLICK CLICK"
BMWCrds [8:34 PM]: Not sure what you mean
Yankeesman888 [8:34 PM]: YOU WILL
BMWCrds [8:34 PM]: Can you spell it out for me?
BMWCrds [8:35 PM]: I have been told that your name is Mark Kirchner and you're only 24 years old. Can you confirm?
Auto response from Yankeesman888 [8:35 PM]: I am on the phone right now.
BMWCrds [8:36 PM]: On the phone with whom?
BMWCrds [8:37 PM]: What don't you call me? Then I can ask to speak to your mother and tell her about your recent activities on eBay.
Auto response from Yankeesman888 [8:37 PM]: I am on the phone right now.

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Posted By: MW

Yankeesman888 [8:41 PM]: IM ON THE PHONE WITH MY PARTNER
Yankeesman888 [8:42 PM]: YOUR IN TROUBLE AND YOU DON'T EVEN REALIZE
BMWCrds [8:42 PM]: What type of trouble? And who would your "partner" be? Roy Huff?

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Posted By: Kenny Cole

OK, I'll be the first to take the plunge. My suggestion for feedback is "good with crayons, not good with cards or honesty. Liar. Is so crooked he makes a spiral staircase look like a fireman's ladder." [citation from Allistair MacLean novel omitted]. Probably too long, but I won't be offended if you edit while leaving the meaning.

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Posted By: Wesley

Is "click click" the sound that the trigger of a gun might make?

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Posted By: Lee Behrens

It's nice to know that he has changed his ebay name, he is former yankee collector if you just clicked in. this guy definately needs to be charged with something.

Mike are you forwarding this info to ebay to get him shut down?

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Posted By: MW

Lee,

Yes, I've saved all of his responses and I'm going to be making a personal call to eBay. Some of his other responses (not published above) were extremely vulgar and threatening and violate numerous AOL terms of use. I'm going to forward a report to them as well and recommend that he be removed as an active AOL user.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

Apparently since 9/11 threats of violence made across state lines that are reported to the police or FBI must be investigated by the FBI. If you make a complaint to your local police department, they will forward it through the FBI to the local police in the miscreant's area and the local police will pay him a visit. This happened to me some months ago when a deranged ebayer reported me to the local police for allegedly threatening him. The FBI routed the report to the Burbank PD and I had a visit from a very amused cop, who told me that protocols put in place after 9/11 required the visit but that the local PD in the miscreant's jurisdiction told him that the guy was a nut. For someone who made written threats, the visit would be decidedly less pleasant.

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Posted By: runscott

Here's the original purchase of this nasty-looking "Feldman"

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31719&item=2725148101

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Posted By: MW

Scott,

Yes, I'm well aware of the origin of the card and the fact that it's a reprint.