Is a missing chunk not an automatic 1 or "authentic"?

[Brent G.]

Saw this on the current REA auction. I've seen some pretty good and bad looking 1.5s, but I thought a part of the card actually missing is an automatic 1 or authentic grade.

Is this common or a rare exception?

[parkplace33]

My guess is this is a reholder of an old grade.

That card should not be a 1.5.

[BioCRN]

As someone who has plenty of lower-graded cards in my collection, with SGC you have to really inspect any SGC card below a 3.

Marks and various other things some would expect would bring a 1-grade can get up to a 2.5 with SGC.

Parts of cards missing is pretty much a 1 grade, but even passable centering can get a 1.5 from SGC as long as there's not other glaring "automatic 1" problems with the card.

[Brent G.]

Apparently this fits the letter of the law. I guess "small portion" is subjective.

[Brent G.]

This card of mine was given a 1 for the tear to the edge. I don't think there's much doubt which is closer to a 1.5.

[refz]

I feel sgc will throw a bone in this case if the eye appeal & centering is there.

[notfast]

I have a PSA 1.5 that has a similar corner missing. Slabbed in last 10 years.

[brianp-beme]

I think Beckett's old BCCG division accurately graded this McGraw as a 5.

Of course, a 5 grade in their 'just slightly different' grading scale system was not Excellent, but instead Poor or Better. Being the owner of this McGraw I would like to believe it is not Poor, but should be classified in the Better range, perhaps even close to Excellent.


Brian

[raulus]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I think Beckett's old BCCG division accurately graded this McGraw as a 5.

Of course, a 5 grade in their 'just slightly different' grading scale system was not Excellent, but instead Poor or Better. Being the owner of this McGraw I would like to believe it is not Poor, but should be classified in the Better range, perhaps even close to Excellent.


Brian

Got to love that old BCCG grading scale. It's like the only reason for having such a bizarre scale is to take advantage of people who don't look closely enough at the card or at the text on the slab, and just glance at the number and bid accordingly.

[Brent G.]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I think Beckett's old BCCG division accurately graded this McGraw as a 5.

Of course, a 5 grade in their 'just slightly different' grading scale system was not Excellent, but instead Poor or Better. Being the owner of this McGraw I would like to believe it is not Poor, but should be classified in the Better range, perhaps even close to Excellent.


Brian

Wow — that’s an incredible 5!

[BioCRN]

I hope Beckett made good loot from their BCCG brand because it sure as hell cost them some legitimacy on their more respected graded products.

I can't believe how many years BCCG stuck around when the backlash on their grading scale was controversial pretty much from the outset.

[refz]

This is not my card and I’m using this only as a reference. Found this 1914 in a FB group to shed some more light..

Danny

[packs]

Wish I ever had this kind of luck on my submissions:

[Brent G.]

Originally Posted by refz

This is not my card and I’m using this only as a reference. Found this 1914 in a FB group to shed some more light..

Danny

And there it is, Danny …

[brianp-beme]

In my opinion Cracker Jack cards with chunks missing look healthier when outside of a plastic coffin.

Brian (a good chunk of chunked graded cards are 'dead' to me)

[jayshum]

When I was collecting the T3 set, I remember that any card with a pinhole was graded a 1 no matter how nice it looked overall.

[Kidnapped18]

This Killifer PSA 3 has a rounded corner

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Kidnapped18

This Killifer PSA 3 has a rounded corner

If the bottom left corner is considered home plate, Killifer could be said to be rounding 2nd and headed for third.


Brian

[Kidnapped18]

It varies...
I have six 14 CJs with various amounts of corner damage
Four are PSA 1
One is a PSA 1.5
One is a PSA 2

And its almost always the high number CJs

Originally Posted by Brent G.

Saw this on the current REA auction. I've seen some pretty good and bad looking 1.5s, but I thought a part of the card actually missing is an automatic 1 or authentic grade.

Is this common or a rare exception?

[Kidnapped18]

Brian

There was a 14 CJ Wagner posted a while ago and you posted
If home plate is considered to be the bottom right corner of this Cracker Jack Wagner, then Honus is rounding third and headed for home.

No we just need one rounding 1st!

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

If the bottom left corner is considered home plate, Killifer could be said to be rounding 2nd and headed for third.


Brian

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Kidnapped18

Brian

There was a 14 CJ Wagner posted a while ago and you posted
If home plate is considered to be the bottom right corner of this Cracker Jack Wagner, then Honus is rounding third and headed for home.

No we just need one rounding 1st!

My conscious brain completely forgot I had written that 2-1/2 years ago, but evidently my unconscious brain couldn't resist bringing it to the surface again.

I guess you can say great mind think alike.

And here's the thread (I even posted about notched cards in that one).

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=2277073


Brian