VCP now has Universal POP

[BobbyVCP]

New feature on VCP is our Universal POP report
combining the 4 major graders...

Works great except for some exceptions like T206 since PSA is kind of all over the place and they now track basically every different back variation...which the other graders do not. And a few others sets as well. But this will improve over time when we get to do some changes in VCP to make it happen.

I can go into more detail but fairly certain you all know the issues.

We are continually trying to improve VCP with more and more features for our members. Hope you all appreciate the work we are doing. As we appreciate your patronage.

Leon if this is not appropriate then feel free to delete.

[MR RAREBACK]

1955 topps koufax 17,094
1955 topps clemente 10,766
Maybe because clemente is a high number, or centering issues

[BobbyVCP]

I think with Koufax starting in Brooklyn and moving to LA gets more collectors then Clemente playing his whole career in Pittsburgh...

You will almost always see higher demand for Yankee and Dodger players...media

[JimC]

Bobby:

I think this is a very cool addition to your service.

Have you guys talked with SGC about whether it's possible to clean up their pop reports for issues where they have duplicate listings? I'm thinking specifically of the various D304 issues, 1917 Collins McCarthy and the 1934 Al Demaree die cuts. In each case there is more than one pop report for the same card issue. There are other issues too, of course.

Is it your understanding that the total SGC population is the sum of the relevant pop reports?

Just curious as to whether anyone is looking into fixing this - - if it even can be fixed.

[mrreality68]

That is a great addition indeed

[The Detroit Collector]

This would great addition. Is this already out? Or will it be here soon?
I don't see it on the phone app. Will this be on the app? Desktop?

[CRT Sportscards]

This is great!

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by CRT Sportscards

This is great!

Very nice tool. Thanks

[conor912]

What’s the latest guess on how accurate the pop reports actually are? I have to imagine the number of cards that get cracked is significant in some cases.

[tjisonline]

Originally Posted by conor912

What’s the latest guess on how accurate the pop reports actually are? I have to imagine the number of cards that get cracked is significant in some cases.

Each card is different. Let’s use the 1952 Topps set and it's famous 3 DPs in the last series.

As of March 4, 2025

1952 Topps Mickey Mantle DP 311
Total Graded: 2,879

1952 Topps Jackie Robinson DP 312
Total Graded: 1,980

1952 Topps Bobby Thomson DP 313
Total Graded: 1,184

1952 Topps Ed Mathews SP 407
Total Graded: 1,329

I would wager a ton that Jackie has been cracked and regraded as much as the mantle.

So mantle’s true pop is close to Jackie’s 1,980 graded . No where near Mantle’s current # of nearly 2900 graded

Since many of us assume the Jackie has been regraded ton of times so his true # is closer to Thompson’s 1,184. I don’t think the Thompson has been regraded much but def more than many 1952s.

So the true pop for Mantle and Jackie is far closer to Thompson’s # of 1,184 graded than 2,900.

Furthermore, this also tells us specific last series single prints like the Ed Mathew’s card has also been regraded many times as there’s zero chance his card as been graded more than Thompson. SP vs DP.

* I’m making a big assumption that most of Thompson’s cards have been graded which I believe is true due to being in the high #s. His card is the key to my theory

[tjisonline]

Very cool Bobby. i’m going on my second year being a subscriber and am very happy with your product.

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

New feature on VCP is our Universal POP report combining the 4 major graders...

Works great except for some exceptions like T206 since PSA is kind of all over the place and they now track basically every different back variation...which the other graders do not. And a few others sets as well. But this will improve over time when we get to do some changes in VCP to make it happen.

I can go into more detail but fairly certain you all know the issues.

We are continually trying to improve VCP with more and more features for our members. Hope you all appreciate the work we are doing. As we appreciate your patronage.

Leon if this is not appropriate then feel free to delete.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by tjisonline

Each card is different. Let’s use the 1952 Topps set and it's famous 3 DPs in the last series.

As of March 4, 2025

1952 Topps Mickey Mantle DP 311
Total Graded: 2,879

1952 Topps Jackie Robinson DP 312
Total Graded: 1,980

1952 Topps Bobby Thomson DP 313
Total Graded: 1,184

1952 Topps Ed Mathews SP 407
Total Graded: 1,329

I would wager a ton that Jackie has been cracked and regraded as much as the mantle.

So mantle’s true pop is close to Jackie’s 1,980 graded . No where near Mantle’s current # of nearly 2900 graded

Since many of us assume the Jackie has been regraded ton of times so his true # is closer to Thompson’s 1,184. I don’t think the Thompson has been regraded much but def more than many 1952s.

So the true pop for Mantle and Jackie is far closer to Thompson’s # of 1,184 graded than 2,900.

Furthermore, this also tells us specific last series single prints like the Ed Mathew’s card has also been regraded many times as there’s zero chance his card as been graded more than Thompson. SP vs DP.

* I’m making a big assumption that most of Thompson’s cards have been graded which I believe is true due to being in the high #s. His card is the key to my theory

The popularity and value of a card affect how often it's graded as well as how often it's cracked out.
When I was looking at pop reports for a few groups of T206 the HOF players in those groups had pops about double that of commons. None I looked at were superprints.
The big surprise was that as a graded card Magie was more common than Magee by a lot.

[t206fanatic]

excellent addition, thanks.

[conor912]

So “not accurate at all” is what you’re saying

Originally Posted by tjisonline

Each card is different. Let’s use the 1952 Topps set and it's famous 3 DPs in the last series.

As of March 4, 2025

1952 Topps Mickey Mantle DP 311
Total Graded: 2,879

1952 Topps Jackie Robinson DP 312
Total Graded: 1,980

1952 Topps Bobby Thomson DP 313
Total Graded: 1,184

1952 Topps Ed Mathews SP 407
Total Graded: 1,329

I would wager a ton that Jackie has been cracked and regraded as much as the mantle.

So mantle’s true pop is close to Jackie’s 1,980 graded . No where near Mantle’s current # of nearly 2900 graded

Since many of us assume the Jackie has been regraded ton of times so his true # is closer to Thompson’s 1,184. I don’t think the Thompson has been regraded much but def more than many 1952s.

So the true pop for Mantle and Jackie is far closer to Thompson’s # of 1,184 graded than 2,900.

Furthermore, this also tells us specific last series single prints like the Ed Mathew’s card has also been regraded many times as there’s zero chance his card as been graded more than Thompson. SP vs DP.

* I’m making a big assumption that most of Thompson’s cards have been graded which I believe is true due to being in the high #s. His card is the key to my theory

[tjisonline]

Originally Posted by conor912

So “not accurate at all” is what you’re saying

Exactly for some famous / popular cards that have been cracked opened & regraded often like the 86 Fleer MJ, most Mantles, etc…

People think there are far more 1952 Topps Mantles out there than realistically possible. Don’t get me wrong, it’s by no means scarce. The Mathews is the toughest “superstar” 1952 card in the set regardless of condition (along with every other non-DP in that series).

For other cards that are nearly not as popular (1914 CJs Hooper / Wood), extremely scarce (e.g. 1939 Play Ball Moe Berg Sample) & / or PSA recently started grading them, the universal Pop reports are kinda a still an accurate representation of reality in my opinion

[BobbyVCP]

Originally Posted by The Detroit Collector

This would great addition. Is this already out? Or will it be here soon?
I don't see it on the phone app. Will this be on the app? Desktop?

Already out

[The Detroit Collector]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

Already out

hmm I dont see it.

[Swadewade51]

Thanks for adding Bobby. Great data to have (taken with a grain of salt of course).

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[Casey2296]

Fantastic start. I could imagine your site reflecting the actual pops over time. SGC abandoned their database long ago, bad move imo, and PSA only cares about their own. A valid database for collectors would be incredible, not profitable, but incredible.