Who Am I? #3

[frankbmd]

I’m unique. why

Jerry was never my business partner. why not

I was over 40 when I got my personal best. Did we win?

[sthoemke]

Michael Jordan

Only NBA basketball player to play MLB baseball

Jerry Reinsdorf, team owner (White Sox/Bulls)

Players can't be owners

Won 1992 Olympics Basketball "Dream Team"

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by sthoemke

Michael Jordan

Only NBA basketball player to play MLB baseball

Jerry Reinsdorf, team owner (White Sox/Bulls)

Players can't be owners

Won 1992 Olympics Basketball "Dream Team"

The short answer is no, but a nice try.
Wrong Jerry
1992 Olympics won but was that the personal best for any of the players.
The Birmingham Barons are not a MLB team.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by sthoemke

Michael Jordan

Only NBA basketball player to play MLB baseball

Jerry Reinsdorf, team owner (White Sox/Bulls)

Players can't be owners

Won 1992 Olympics Basketball "Dream Team"

Danny Ainge and Ron Reed both played in the NBA and MLB. I think there are others.

[sthoemke]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

The short answer is no, but a nice try.
Wrong Jerry
1992 Olympics won but was that the personal best for any of the players.
The Birmingham Barons are not a MLB team.

Jordan did play in an MLB exhibition game at Wrigley Field in April 1994.

[egri]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Danny Ainge and Ron Reed both played in the NBA and MLB. I think there are others.

Gene Conley, who may be the only player to win championships in both leagues.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by egri

Gene Conley, who may be the only player to win championships in both leagues.

David Albert DeBusschere (October 16, 1940 – May 14, 2003) was an American professional National Basketball Association (NBA) player and coach and Major League Baseball (MLB) player. He played for the Chicago White Sox of MLB in 1962 and 1963 and in the NBA for the Detroit Pistons from 1962 through 1968 and for the New York Knicks from 1968 to 1974. He was also the head coach for the Pistons from 1964 through 1967.

DeBusschere was inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in 1983. In 1996, DeBusschere was named as one of the 50 greatest players in NBA history. In October 2021, DeBusschere was again honored as one of the league's greatest players of all time by being named to the NBA 75th Anniversary Team.

[frankbmd]

Who am I?

Just a hint. I have not been mentioned yet.

No one will be able to deny that I am unique.

[Eric72]

Randy Johnson

- Unique for several reasons (tallest MLB player from the 20th Century, hitting a bird in mid-flight with a pitched ball, quite possibly the most intimidating pitcher in MLB history, etc.)
- Jerry Colangelo was never his business partner, although the two were linked due to the Arizona Diamondbacks. Colangelo led a group of investors that owned the team, Randy was (in essence) just an employee
- Threw a perfect game after his 40th birthday

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Randy Johnson

- Unique for several reasons (tallest MLB player from the 20th Century, hitting a bird in mid-flight with a pitched ball, quite possibly the most intimidating pitcher in MLB history, etc.)
- Jerry Colangelo was never his business partner, although the two were linked due to the Arizona Diamondbacks. Colangelo led a group of investors that owned the team, Randy was (in essence) just an employee
- Threw a perfect game after his 40th birthday

Eric, I am not Randy Johnson, but your reasoning is commendable. As far as being unique, is there any evidence that I have the biggest "unit"? I think not. The idea of a perfect game over the age of 40 is similar to the one I have in mind and with no earlier perfect games in his career. As far as the "Jerry" is concerned, the one in the clue I have never met.

There may some hints in the paragraph above, and I will give more hints periodically. I would encourage everyone to think outside the box.

[frankbmd]

I’ve been dead for at least 6 years.

[frankbmd]

I may be dead, but I am not John Doe.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I may be dead, but I am not John Doe.

Before you began to molder, did you play a sport and if so, in which one were you most famous?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Before you began to molder, did you play a sport and if so, in which one were you most famous?

I remember the name of my team, but I cannot remember whether it was baseball or football version. I did play a few games in San Francisco though, but always as a member of the visiting team. If you think your memory improves when you die, think again.

[sthoemke]

Would the team be the Cardinals? (just trying to help)

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by sthoemke

Would the team be the Cardinals? (just trying to help)

Or the Browns or Giants?

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Or the Browns or Giants?

I think the baseball Giants and Browns are out because this person played games in San Francisco but always on the visiting team, and the St. Louis Browns never played at San Francisco.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I think the baseball Giants and Browns are out because this person played games in San Francisco but always on the visiting team, and the St. Louis Browns never played at San Francisco.

Right. Browns, Giants, Cardinals football, or Cardinals baseball. And aside from Blanda, not very many football players play into their 40s. I'm thinking Cardinals baseball or football QB.

[frankbmd]

Good points made. I expect the correct answer within a week. Perhaps another hint will be needed in the morning or now.

By the way I am asymmetric.

[egri]

Stan Musial? He was over 40 when he set the NL career hits record, as far as I can tell, never partnered with anyone named Jerry, and at the time of his retirement, was the only Cardinal with his number retired.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by egri

Stan Musial? He was over 40 when he set the NL career hits record, as far as I can tell, never partnered with anyone named Jerry, and at the time of his retirement, was the only Cardinal with his number retired.

I was wondering about Lou Brock, who played past 40 and died asymmetrical (amputated leg.) But he didn't have any career best at the tail end of his career.

[frankbmd]

Neither Stan nor Lou is correct. I think the clues are difficult but fair and should lead to my identity and only my identity.

[Mark17]

Alexander was the subject of the 1952 biographical film The Winning Team, portrayed by Ronald Reagan, giving Alexander the unique distinction of being named for one U.S. president and being portrayed by another.

He developed cancer on his right ear, necessitating its amputation.

After the end of prohibition, Alexander operated a tavern in St. Louis with Hughie Miller as his partner.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Alexander was the subject of the 1952 biographical film The Winning Team, portrayed by Ronald Reagan, giving Alexander the unique distinction of being named for one U.S. president and being portrayed by another.

He developed cancer on his right ear, necessitating its amputation.

After the end of prohibition, Alexander operated a tavern in St. Louis with Hughie Miller as his partner.

I have a grandson named Grover, but that is irrelevant.
I’m having difficulty identifying his career best after the age of 40 though. He did lead the league in WHIP at the age of 40, but that was not his lowest WHIP, so not a career best.

Mark, unless you have an answer for the third clue, Grover Alexander is incorrect. And if you do have an answer, Grover is still incorrect.

I’m probably going to reveal the answer with this one.

I played for 9 different teams and my career spanned 20 years.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Wilhelm?

[frankbmd]

Not Hoyt.

[Leon]

This was moved from the water cooler section as it looks like those guessing need some help. Nice one, Frank....
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[frankbmd]

1. I am unique

2. I was never Jerry's business partner. In fact I never met him.

3. I got my personal best when I was over 40 years old.

4. I had been dead for at least 6 years.

5. I had a team name that had identical names in baseball and football, but I don't remember which one I was on.

6. I played a few games in San Francisco, but was always on the visiting team.

7. I am asymmetric.

8. I played on nine different teams during my twenty year career.

[Beercan collector]

I was thinking Nolan Ryan he broke no hitter records after the age 40 ,
He’s on a card with Jerry Koosman ,
But he’s not dead

[gunboat82]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

1. I am unique

2. I was never Jerry's business partner. In fact I never met him.

3. I got my personal best when I was over 40 years old.

4. I had been dead for at least 6 years.

5. I had a team name that had identical names in baseball and football, but I don't remember which one I was on.

6. I played a few games in San Francisco, but was always on the visiting team.

7. I am asymmetric.

8. I played on nine different teams during my twenty year career.

Are you Deacon White?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Beercan collector

I was thinking Nolan Ryan he broke no hitter records after the age 40 ,
He’s on a card with Jerry Koosman ,
But he’s not dead

Nolan and Koosman were also teammates.

I never met Jerry in Clue #2.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by gunboat82

Are you Deacon White?

I don't think Deacon ever played in San Francisco.

[cgjackson222]

Lave Cross?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Lave Cross?

How many games did he play in San Francisco?
What was his career best over 40?

I don't think so.

[brianp-beme]

My guess is Jesse Burkett.

I’m unique. why - Because I am the only HOF player with the same last name as Frank.

Jerry was never my business partner. why not - Because my name is not Ben, and I don't even like ice cream.

I was over 40 when I got my personal best. Did we win? - I hit .350 in 1912 at the age of 43 for the Worcester Busters, which was my best batting average when playing in the minor leagues. And Worcester won at least 56 games in 1912.


Brian

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

My guess is Jesse Burkett.

I’m unique. why - Because I am the only HOF player with the same last name as Frank.

Jerry was never my business partner. why not - Because my name is not Ben, and I don't even like ice cream.

I was over 40 when I got my personal best. Did we win? - I hit .350 in 1912 at the age of 43 for the Worcester Busters, which was my best batting average when playing in the minor leagues. And Worcester won at least 56 games in 1912.


Brian

Brian,

Your thinking is commendable, but wrong for so many reasons that I will not enumerate.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The answer will be some obscure minor leaguer, or something even more off the wall.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Brian,

Your thinking is commendable, but wrong for so many reasons that I will not enumerate.

I do like to think outside of the box that has been turned inside out.


Brian (logic is best when twisted into pretzel form)

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

1. I am unique

2. I was never Jerry's business partner. In fact I never met him.

3. I got my personal best when I was over 40 years old.

4. I had been dead for at least 6 years.

5. I had a team name that had identical names in baseball and football, but I don't remember which one I was on.

6. I played a few games in San Francisco, but was always on the visiting team.

7. I am asymmetric.

8. I played on nine different teams during my twenty year career.

Are all nine of these Major League Baseball teams?

[judsonhamlin]

Bobo Newsom? Not that I can say with certainty

[gunboat82]

Jim Thorpe fits some of the clues, including the cryptic "not John Doe" clue... but I can't find a link for every clue.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Are all nine of these Major League Baseball teams?

No, none of them are.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Of course not. I am guessing it's neither football nor baseball.

[gunboat82]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

No, none of them are.

Now I think you're Jim Kendrick. You played for the New York Giants. You couldn't partner with Jerry (Jones... fellow oil dude) because he was born the year after you died. Your personal best was winning the Soldier's Medal for an act of valor at age 40, and you're assymetric because you had your arm amputated as a result.

[Eric72]

Here are a few less-commonly-known shared team names (at least one each baseball and football) from throughout the years:

- Blues
- Braves
- Colonels
- Colts
- Cowboys
- Dodgers
- Indians
- Maroons
- Pirates
- Reds
- Senators
- Tigers
- Yankees

Was your team name one of 13 I listed above?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by gunboat82

Now I think you're Jim Kendrick. You played for the New York Giants. You couldn't partner with Jerry (Jones... fellow oil dude) because he was born the year after you died. Your personal best was winning the Soldier's Medal for an act of valor at age 40, and you're assymetric because you had your arm amputated as a result.

And the 9 teams in 20 seasons? And the games in San Francisco?

[frankbmd]

I've been out on the wrote, but can respond to each of you in one post

Originally Posted by Eric72

Are all nine of these Major League Baseball teams?

None of them are Eric.

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin

Bobo Newsom? Not that I can say with certainty

Bobo Newsom is not correct.

Originally Posted by gunboat82

Jim Thorpe fits some of the clues, including the cryptic "not John Doe" clue... but I can't find a link for every clue.

Not Jim Thorpe, sorry

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Of course not. I am guessing it's neither football nor baseball.

Peter you are wrong. Another hint.

Originally Posted by gunboat82

Now I think you're Jim Kendrick. You played for the New York Giants. You couldn't partner with Jerry (Jones... fellow oil dude) because he was born the year after you died. Your personal best was winning the Soldier's Medal for an act of valor at age 40, and you're assymetric because you had your arm amputated as a result.

Not Jim Kendrick

[QUOTE=Eric72;2430392]Here are a few less-commonly-known shared team names (at least one each baseball and football) from throughout the years:

- Blues
- Braves
- Colonels
- Colts
- Cowboys
- Dodgers
- Indians
- Maroons
- Pirates
- Reds
- Senators
- Tigers [/COLOR]

My team is not on your list, but this is not a trick. You included the Maroons, but left out out a team that is much better known. Your list is not complete.

[frankbmd]

It is probably time for another clue, but let me finish my apple first if I can.

Note: Some of you have identified key aspects of several clues, but interpreted the clue incorrectly.

I have one primary sports card released as part of a major set. I don't think the company made any further sets. I may have driven them out of business.

With a number of active participants, I will give y'all more time.

[mooch]

Rob Bironas?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And the 9 teams in 20 seasons? And the games in San Francisco?

Peter, I have checked my personal scrapbook and actually only played two games in San Francisco in different years.