For Sale: Raw T205s (HOFs) + MLers + Mostly Offbacks)

[53toppscollector]

All of my graded cards are in this thread

I've been accumulating a bunch of T205s over the last 18 months, upgrading, downgrading, and now its time to pare things down.

Prices assume paypal FF and include shipping

Always check this first post to see what is still available, I will remove cards as they are sold, but I am not going to re-scan everything and upload new pictures.

I'm open to trades for T205 front/back combos I still need (if you want to trade, PM me and we can discuss).

If you send me a PM and I do not respond, it likely means I haven't gotten it, please feel free to send an email as well and I will get back to you.

Hall of Famers

Bresnahan (Mouth Closed) - Polar Bear: $75
Tinker - Sovereign: $190

Minor Leaguers + Errors

Merritt - Hassan 649: $25
Nee - Hassan 649: $25
Graham (Blue Signature) - Polar Bear: $25

Piedmont 25

Downey: $15
Dygert: $15

SweetCap Black 25/42

Maddox - Fac 42: $15


SweetCap Red

Lobert: $20
McElveen: $20
Meyers: $20
Paskert: $20

Polar Bear

Bergen: $20
Blackburne: $20
Knight: $20
Leach: $20
Leever: $20
Lobert: $20


Hassan

Herzog - Fac 649: $20
Leever - Fac 649: $20
Mattern - Fac 649: $20
Parent - Fac 649: $20
Reulbach - Fac 30: $20
Reulbach - Fac 649: $20


Honest Long Cut

Knight: $25 (low pop combo)
Paskert: $20
Tannehill: $20
Wiltse (Both Ears): $25 (very tough front/back combo)


Sovereign

Ball: $25
Dooin: $25 (low pop combo)
Reulbach: $25(low pop combo)


Cycle

Downey: $60
Murray: $75(very low pop)

Piedmont 42

Camnitz: $30
Crandall (T Crossed):$55
Mattern: $55
Murray: $75
Wiltse (Both Ears), SGC 2 Snap: $75

All of the Piedmont 42s are very low pop, single digits and in some cases, less than 5. Very tough front/back combo.

[53toppscollector]

More scans

[zoidberg]

Pm sent…

[53toppscollector]

you may need to re-send, Ive had a few folks tell me they've PMed me but I haven't gotten the first message, though replies seem to be working.

[zoidberg]

Originally Posted by 53toppscollector

you may need to re-send, Ive had a few folks tell me they've PMed me but I haven't gotten the first message, though replies seem to be working.

Ok. Will do

[zoidberg]

Originally Posted by zoidberg

Ok. Will do

Resent.. hopefully all are still available

[piecesofthegame]

PM sent

[53toppscollector]

Remember to check the first post of the thread to see what is still available for sale. I will not be re-uploading the scans to remove the sold cards, I will just remove them from the price list in the first post. And that post is up to date as of now. Thanks

[JKPolk]

PM Sent

[53toppscollector]

a bunch of cards have been sold. remember to check the first post of the thread to see what is still available.

[benge610]

James,
I'll take Fletcher PB.
PM sent.
Ben

[53toppscollector]

bump, prices dropped on a bunch of the cards. i think these prices are very competitive given where the market is now, and the fact that you are saving money on shipping/fees. thanks for looking.

[benge610]

I'll take,
Doyle PB $30, Reulbach P42 $45
PM sent.
Ben

[53toppscollector]

bump

[billynorth]

I will take Titus. Sending PM now!

[53toppscollector]

prices dropped. i do not think you will find better prices on these front/back combos anywhere else. reminder that the price includes shipping.

[benge610]

I'll take,
Beck PB
Doyle Hassan/30
PM sent
Ben

[jbyanks1]

I will take the Camnitz Polar Bear

[Jayworld]

I'll take Piedmont 25 Krause for $20. PM sent.

[53toppscollector]

first post updated with what remains

[zoidberg]

I’ll take Foxen sov if still available. Pm sent.

[53toppscollector]

all remaining cards are now cross listed on ebay. i will continue to remove sold cards from the first post, so please check there to see what is still available. thanks

[benge610]

I'll take,
Brown - Polar Bear
Snodgrass - Cycle
PM sent.
Ben

[53toppscollector]

first post updated, price drops on a bunch of the remaining cards.

[benge610]

I'll take,
Olmstead - Cycle
Bridwell - Honest
PM sent

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by 53toppscollector

All of the Piedmont 42s are very low pop, single digits and in some cases, less than 5. Very tough front/back combo.

I want to know where this info is published and how you got pop reports on T205 backs not tracked by any grading company. Why would you make a statement like that knowing it's inaccurate?

[53toppscollector]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

I want to know where this info is published and how you got pop reports on T205 backs not tracked by any grading company. Why would you make a statement like that knowing it's inaccurate?

I went through all of the data in the VCP database, logging every single graded card into Excel. I have the summary data for the entire main 208 card set, and the data for most of the errors/variations in the extended master set. I plan to share the data here, there are a few specific cards I want to re-check and recount before posting because they are more difficult to track just based on the scans. You could have PMed me and asked before making an accusatory statement.

[benge610]

Originally Posted by 53toppscollector

You could have PMed me and asked before making an accusatory statement.

Exactly.

[53toppscollector]

for anyone else that questions my integrity, here is the data I have for the 5 cards listed with Piedmont 42 backs. this comes from looking at 15+ years of sales data in VCP and factors in all the graded cards with available scans/certification numbers.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by 53toppscollector

for anyone else that questions my integrity, here is the data I have for the 5 cards listed with Piedmont 42 backs. this comes from looking at 15+ years of sales data in VCP and factors in all the graded cards with available scans/certification numbers.

And I think that sums it up perfectly… Any more comments from the peanut gallery?

[hcv123]

Pm coming

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by 53toppscollector

for anyone else that questions my integrity, here is the data I have for the 5 cards listed with Piedmont 42 backs. this comes from looking at 15+ years of sales data in VCP and factors in all the graded cards with available scans/certification numbers.

I was questioning your information, not your integrity, but since you think I want to call your integrity into check, I will ask you this. Where have you been in the last 15 years with all this information that you’ve collected while everybody else has been doing research and posting it to the board? It’s very odd that I have never done a transaction with you in my 18 years of collecting T205’s. I don’t think I’ve ever got any information from you, yet you claim to have an extremely accurate database based on VCP over the last 15 years. How are you able to track the back of the cards that don’t have pictures of the backs available? This was an issue in the beginning of VCP for years wasn’t it, or was that a different site I’m thinking of?

I’m just curious how you think you can question my integrity. Especially since I go back 15ish years on this board with T205’s alone. I didn’t see a single one of those old-school T205 guys stepping up to take your side. That’s because some of us have shared information with each other for years and years and years. Therefore the information that we put out and give out is accurate. So if I tell you that your numbers are incorrect for Piedmont 42s, you can take it to the bank. I’ve owned more Piedmont 42 backed T205s then you’ve probably owned in T205’s total. The guys on this board got so pissed off when I sold off my collection. I should say partial, but I sold off most of it, and it sank the prices for a couple years.

Your list is similar to the one that’s posted publicly to the board for members to add to a master list. Hell I screwed up and made a few checks in the wrong boxes. Swore I was correct, being cocky and confident of myself of course. Then dove through picture after picture of cards I had owned over a 4-5year span to try and find what I was remembering. Needless to say the card doesn’t exist and I screwed up. I don’t think I ever got defensive and said people are calling my integrity out and then laying my reputation down on something that I’m not sure whether I was 100% right on. We have enough liars and frauds in this hobby that frequent this board already so please don’t add to it.

To anyone that got their feathers ruffled because I didn’t PM him about this information. Why even comment? I fully understand whose post I posted on. So why are you on here running your mouth to give your two cents about what and how I post. What happened to minding your own business? It’s not your business. It’s not your cards. It’s not your information that was written in the post. It’s not your place to say anything unless you have supporting evidence to prove me wrong, which I know you don’t.

If there’s an issue, I’ll hear from a moderator.

[53toppscollector]

"15+ years of data" is the full VCP database. I have not been tracking T205s for 15 years, I just exhausted the entire database. Every listing for every card where there were scans. I also said that I did NOT count cards where a back scan was not there, because there is no way to know what the back is without the scan. And I did not question YOUR integrity at all, re-read what I wrote.

Also, this is a for sale thread, so I'd appreciate not cluttering this up. Mods can remove the non-relevant info from this thread if they would like to.

[benge610]

Originally Posted by 53toppscollector

Also, this is a for sale thread, so I'd appreciate not cluttering this up. Mods can remove the non-relevant info from this thread if they would like to.

+1