Bond Bread Tin

[incugator]

Recently bought a lot of 1947 Bond Bread Cards. They are rounded corners. They came in the original bread tin with the Jackie Robinson ad as part of the tin. Does anybody have any idea how common this tin with the ad is? Does anybody know the background on how these came? It is petty cool.

[Schlesinj]

Check this thread, wealth of knowledge located here:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...ght=Bond+bread

[polakoff]

I got outbid on this -- the tin actually spooked me a bit because it didn't seem legit to the time period and I was worried about the cards being laminated (IIRC) and concerned they could have been trimmed square corners. I couldn't find any info about the tin when I looked. Definitely not saying they aren't legit as I know absolutely nothing about this issue, I just talked myself out of bidding higher. Looking forward to learning anything you may uncover.

[STL1944]

I saw the set as well and was going to put a bid in as well but just didn’t feel comfortable with the looks of things. If you do get it graded, I’d be curious to know what comes back. if they are real you got a a great deal on things! Good luck!

In terms of the tin, I have never seen anything like it. Love to see if others here have.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by incugator

Recently bought a lot of 1947 Bond Bread Cards. They are rounded corners. They came in the original bread tin with the Jackie Robinson ad as part of the tin. Does anybody have any idea how common this tin with the ad is? Does anybody know the background on how these came? It is petty cool.

Nice pick up. There should be some threads on here about how they were packaged. I think Teddy Z got them from the bread loaves.
I picked this up not too long ago from one of the good guys, Danny M.....


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[CharleyBrown]

I can't answer any questions about the authenticity of the cards. However, I don't believe the tin to be original at all. That ad was not used for the rounded corner cards. Instead it was given to store owners and used in newspapers to promote the one of the groups of 6 of the set of 13 Bond Bread cards. Im not at my computer now so I can't speak to which group of 6, but it 100% was not used to promote the round corner cards. Sorry

[CharleyBrown]

The advertisement that is on the bread tin was featured in newspapers in August, 1948.

It was part of a trend in 1948 to feature families in advertisements.

This article from June 1948 talks about Jackie's family being featured in ads to promote Bond Bread.

Unrelated to this post, but still additional information on the set of 13: here's an article on the set of 13 that discusses the release of the set in various parts of the US

[polakoff]

Another one of these tins ends today on eBay and the seller is (I believe) the same as the first seller. He also has laminated Bond Bread cards which he offered the first time around.

INCUGATOR — did you happen to return your purchase? If not how similar do these cards and tin look to the ones you bought?

Tin: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1947-Bond-B...-127632-2357-0

Jackie card: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1947-Bond-B...-127632-2357-0

[pherbener]

Usually we don't out auctions until they end.

[pherbener]

That being said, I don't like them. The color on the back of Jackie seems closer to the square backs and I don't like the look of the rounded corners.

[Pat R]

You can see the pencil marks where someone marked the corners to cut them.

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[incugator]

The seller had a return policy which he honored. I have a few other rounded corners cards and they didn’t seem the same. Color, paper and corner rounding was different.

[polakoff]

I really wasn’t trying to out it, just wanted to know if the original purchase was returned which it looks like it was. I recognized this as looking very similar to the original purchase and being the same seller with such a unique background in the photos. Since there was a question about the provenance of these tins a second one would have been an interesting find.

[Pat R]

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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by polakoff

I really wasn’t trying to out it, just wanted to know if the original purchase was returned which it looks like it was. I recognized this as looking very similar to the original purchase and being the same seller with such a unique background in the photos. Since there was a question about the provenance of these tins a second one would have been an interesting find.

I don't think there is anything wrong with outing this auction. It's obvious the cards have been altered and I don't think it's a coincidence that the seller waited until the past sales of the cards and tin no longer show up on ebay.

[polakoff]

Originally Posted by Pat R

I don't think there is anything wrong with outing this auction. It's obvious the cards have been altered and I don't think it's a coincidence that the seller waited until the past sales of the cards and tin no longer show up on ebay.

What’s interesting is they also don’t show up on Terapeak. I’m guessing that if you cancel an auction it wipes it from the Terapeak database too.

[aloondilana]

Originally Posted by polakoff

Another one of these tins ends today on eBay and the seller is (I believe) the same as the first seller. He also has laminated Bond Bread cards which he offered the first time around.

INCUGATOR — did you happen to return your purchase? If not how similar do these cards and tin look to the ones you bought?

Tin: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1947-Bond-B...-127632-2357-0

Jackie card: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1947-Bond-B...-127632-2357-0

Thanks a ton for bumping this today. Really appreciate that...

[aloondilana]

Originally Posted by Pat R

I don't think there is anything wrong with outing this auction. It's obvious the cards have been altered and I don't think it's a coincidence that the seller waited until the past sales of the cards and tin no longer show up on ebay.

The cards maybe. If there's a question of authenticity. But not the cards and the tin. Complete bs

[polakoff]

My question of authenticity isn’t with the cards, which I believe could be real 1949 square corners trimmed to have rounded corners, but I do have questions about the tin, which I believe to be a complete fantasy piece. There’s not any record or proof of Bond Bread ever even coming in a tin like that, or the ad being used on a tin, and no reason to think a 75 year old tin would even look like that. My interest was in learning if there were 2 different tins like this, which would possibly lend credence to them being a real and recent discovery, or if it was the same tin that OP purchased. It’s the second.

Apologies if I broke a rule in outing the auction, but determining if there was a second tin or if this was the same tin OP posted about seemed like something worth figuring out.

[aloondilana]

Right. After the auction

[GeoPoto]

Originally Posted by polakoff

but I do have questions about the tin, which I believe to be a complete fantasy piece.

I'm confused whether anybody thinks the tin dates from Jackie's association with Bond Bread. If it does, it is a cool piece. I have an 11x15 window poster of the same ad hanging in my house that I paid around $425 for unframed about 5 years ago. I have only seen one sell since; it went for $960.

[polakoff]

I think people do think it dates back to that time given that the auction for the tin sold for nearly $500. The advertisement on there is, like you said, from a 1948 poster.

I was a bidder in the first auction when this was offered and was interested in bidding in this one if there was any suggestion that it could be real, which is why I wanted to know more info to begin with.

[aloondilana]

Originally Posted by polakoff

I think people do think it dates back to that time given that the auction for the tin sold for nearly $500. The advertisement on there is, like you said, from a 1948 poster.

I was a bidder in the first auction when this was offered and was interested in bidding in this one if there was any suggestion that it could be real, which is why I wanted to know more info to begin with.

Right. I believe those who bid were at the very least willing to take the gamble. My suggestion in the future would be to do your investigative work privately (inquire with the seller, ask around privately on this board, count on the sellers 30 day return policy, etc). It’s just frustrating when you finally locate a gem, look forward to it all week, and then read about it on here the day of. End of the day it’s not your fault, I should have gone higher. I’m a huge Jackie collector and just bummed. If the winner is on here I’d purchase it from you for $875

[polakoff]

Well, I do sincerely apologize. Really didn’t intend to out it.

[aloondilana]

Originally Posted by polakoff

Well, I do sincerely apologize. Really didn’t intend to out it.

Like I said, not your fault. I should’ve made sure I won it

[Leon]

This is a quite reassuring part of their description. They were really taking care of the cards, if they did it themselves...

Each card has been laminated to maintain structural integrity.

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[Exhibitman]

I was watching those cards as well. They really did not look good to me and the lamination...no. I am amazed someone paid almost $200 for a laminated card.

[polakoff]

Originally Posted by Leon

This is a quite reassuring part of their description. They were really taking care of the cards, if they did it themselves...

Each card has been laminated to maintain structural integrity.

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They were also found at a flea market in Tennessee, sold by a guy in Colorado. Whole thing felt weird to me the first time and even weirder now.

[aloondilana]

Yeah I never liked the cards. Laminated or not