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11-20-2021, 02:30 PM
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Is this really Fred Thayer, inventor of the catcher's mask?
I hate to out an auction, but I don't feel I have any choice. It's in a major auction and I'm pretty confident all interested people have already seen it. The item is described as a cabinet card of Fred Thayer, the inventor of the catcher's mask. I've shown a picture of it below. Also, shown below is a picture of Thayer's Harvard team from the internet. According to numerous websites, Thayer is seated in the middle row, second from the right, holding a catcher's mask. But this guy looks nothing like the guy in the auctioned cabinet card. He has a mustache and is bald, while the guy in the cabinet card has no mustache and a full head of hair. Also, the guy NEXT TO Thayer in the internet photo, on his right, looks identical to the guy in the cabinet card. So, has the auction house gotten it wrong? Does the cabinet card show Thayer or not? Thanks.
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11-20-2021, 02:49 PM
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11-20-2021, 04:52 PM
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Here is a scan from The H Book of Harvard Athletics confirming Tyng is the one with the mustache (he is the one who actually used the mask that Thayer designed).
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11-20-2021, 04:56 PM
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And here is 1878 also with Tyng having a mustache and holding mask.
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11-20-2021, 05:08 PM
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Wow very interesting.
Great research Just curious what is the expected or hoped next steps?
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11-20-2021, 05:48 PM
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To show you how bad I am at photo recognition, if someone said this player was on the Harvard team and didn't tell me who it was, I would have picked Wright. For what it's worth, the cabinet in the auction does have F. W. Thayer written in what appears to be period pencil on the back (which, of course, could be wrong...but at least someone else also thought it was Thayer).
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11-20-2021, 09:57 PM
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On the other hand, here is the 1876 team, in which the person labeled Thayer looks more like the cabinet to me. His left ear is showing clearly in both the cabinet and the team photo, so maybe someone who knows how to do these things can match them up. To be clear, I am just posting the photos for research and discussion purposes. I really don't know the answer, I am just replying based on the original poster questioning the ID.
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11-20-2021, 10:21 PM
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