I guess i am "new" to the hobby, I have never seen this Wagner!!!

[chriskim]

Wow... i guess i am "new" to the hobby, this is the first time I have seen this t206 Wagner in the past 30+ yrs of collecting. It is in fairly "good" condition, it should get a 0.5 grade instead of "A".



https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515

[investinrookies]

already over half a million, Wagners continue to soar rapidly everytime one comes up for sale. Makes the Doyle and plank look cheap in comparison, not to mention some other rare prewar cards.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by chriskim

Wow... i guess i am "new" to the hobby, this is the first time I have seen this t206 Wagner in the past 30+ yrs of collecting. It is in fairly "good" condition, it should get a 0.5 grade instead of "A".



https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515

Apparently the A grade is due to the size requirement (not the card's overall condition). Taken from Hertitage's description...

"The "Authentic" designation from SGC relates to the card's failure to meet minimum size requirements."

[68Hawk]

Originally Posted by chriskim

Wow... i guess i am "new" to the hobby, this is the first time I have seen this t206 Wagner in the past 30+ yrs of collecting. It is in fairly "good" condition, it should get a 0.5 grade instead of "A".



https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515

It's short at the bottom, thus the Auth designation.

[ullmandds]

I think it’s a beautiful example and will do especially well with the joe g provenance.

[Bpm0014]

Seems like a good candidate for a soaking

[irv]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Apparently the A grade is due to the size requirement (not the card's overall condition). Taken from Hertitage's description...

"The "Authentic" designation from SGC relates to the card's failure to meet minimum size requirements."

Originally Posted by 68Hawk

It's short at the bottom, thus the Auth designation.

Regardless of the length/shortness, would it not have received an "A" anyways due to the paper loss on the back?

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by irv

Regardless of the length/shortness, would it not have received an "A" anyways due to the paper loss on the back?

Probably, but falling short of the min size criteria (as stated in the description) conclusively dispels the OP's perception that a number grade might have been warranted.

I do agree with you that the paper loss is significant enough that it would likely grade "A" even if full-sized.

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by chriskim

It is in fairly "good" condition, it should get a 0.5 grade instead of "A".

SGC doesn't offer a grade of "0.5"
after "Authentic" it goes up to "1"

[jcmtiger]

Joe G’s son used to attend the Plymouth Michigan shows. Was collecting Press Pins at that time.

[swarmee]

So the discussion kind of went sideways. Was this a "known" Wagner that is one of the 60-ish currently tracked, or it is a "new to the hobby" find? I think that was the gist of the original post.

[jcmtiger]

Don’t think it is a new card. Joe G’s son has been collecting for at least 25 years.

[Howe’s Hunter]

Don’t remember the date, but there was an article in SCD with Joe, believe he had a “complete” T206 set. Mentioned he just liked taking them out and looking at them for hours on end.

[investinrookies]

Wagner up to $690k now, guesses on where it ends at?

[Tao_Moko]

I saw it at $575k, but will guess it hammers at $1.2m. No telling these days.

[vansaad]

Given the recent Jordan sales and other huge prices on iconic cards, I’m gonna go way out there and say hammer falls at $2.4mm.

[Steve D]

Final bid with BP: $2.52M!


Steve

[toledo_mudhen]

Yea - been watchin this one since auction started - Unbelievable!

[Schlesinj]

I think Goldin has a PSA 2 coming soon.

[chriskim]

Everytime I see Wagner sold for higher high, I am so happy for someone who bought one privately before the market gone crazy. His investment has double/triple/.... every 6 month!

[chriskim]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

I think Goldin has a 2 coming soon.

Would be crazy if Goldin put both of them in the same auction! No AH has ever done that before!

[rats60]

Does Goldin's PSA 2 pass the 5.2 million dollar Mantle sale? What are the 3 PSA 1 cards that recently sold worth now, triple? What about the PSA 3 that sold for 3.25 million, is it a 10 million dollar card?

[TobaccoKing4]

Wow, $2.52 million....that's wild! I was a preteen in the early 2000s so maybe my memory is playing tricks on me, but wouldn't this have been a $120k-$150k card back then? Beats investing in the stock market.

[Tao_Moko]

Originally Posted by Steve D

Final bid with BP: $2.52M!


Steve

Amazing.

[MVSNYC]

Originally Posted by chriskim

Would be crazy if Goldin put both of them in the same auction! No AH has ever done that before!

..."a" 2, not 2.

And yes, very robust sale last night. I am very happy for a particular friend of mine.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by TobaccoKing4

Wow, $2.52 million....that's wild! I was a preteen in the early 2000s so maybe my memory is playing tricks on me, but wouldn't this have been a $120k-$150k card back then? Beats investing in the stock market.

Here are most of the past Wagner sales.

http://www.t206resource.com/WagnerSales.html

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Here are most of the past Wagner sales.

http://www.t206resource.com/WagnerSales.html

PSA A sales go from 540k to 2.52 million in a year and a half.

[chriskim]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

..."a" 2, not 2.

And yes, very robust sale last night. I am very happy for a particular friend of mine.

LOL.. I read too fast or I need another coffee. PSA2 would be a $4M+ card.