Card Flippers List on NET54

[bobbyw8469]

To the OP.....whoever sold you your card in question was a "flipper". If no one bought or sold any cards from/to people who were flippers, there would be no transactions taking place, because we are ALL FLIPPERS! Food for though......

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Leon

I will go as far as saying if I sell you something on the BST and you can sell it for more before I ship it to you, I will ship it to your buyer instead. I could care less, unless you tell a lie to get a better price (as Peter mentioned) .....

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not a likely scenario

[PiratesWS1979]

As most have said, I think if he purchased the card at the sellers price he can do what he wants...IT'S HIS! Also remember, it's not a "flip" until it is sold.

I've listed many cards on eBay from my PC at a high price because they're not for sale...but can be bought.

[KMayUSA6060]

Comical. Just flat out comical.

While we're busy making stupid lists, I'm gonna make my own. Who here is against flippers but won't double my salary so I can afford more of the cards I want?

To the OP, I understand your goal is to not deal with flippers. That is 100% your choice. But to make a thread because you lost out on a card you wanted is ridiculous, especially when the card is again available for sale, regardless of the markup from the original listing. You're choosing not to reach out to the seller.

[Westside]

I am a newbie to the board and have not bought or sold here. If I do sell on here, I could care less what someone does with the card once they buy it. I also feel someone should have the right to sell to who they want as well. If that isn't a Bill Clinton " Don't ask. Don't tell" answer, I've never heard one.

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

To the OP.....whoever sold you your card in question was a "flipper". If no one bought or sold any cards from/to people who were flippers, there would be no transactions taking place, because we are ALL FLIPPERS! Food for though......

+1

Exactly what I was thinking.

[bobbyw8469]

On a side note, when I run my .99 cent auctions, around 85% of the winners, are, YOU GUESSED IT, flippers!! I see my auction cards usually up for sale the following week for more money than the auction went for, sometimes substantially more. Do I like it? Of course not - it usually means I lost my ass on a card if a flipper won it. With Ebay though, the UNDERBIDDER determines the final price, not the winning bidder. Without those card flippers, my cheap cards would sell even cheaper!! Not knocking those non-flippers, but those guys are usually cheap (expletive) who want a card for next to nothing, to hell with the "value". More food for thought for this comical thread.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

not a likely scenario

It's already been done.

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[mechanicalman]

I can certainly understand the sentiment behind the OP's post. A couple years ago, I kept losing ebay auctions to professional eBay flipper, Mike Denero. It was frustrating as hell, but then I realized the problem was me: I was bidding for a "deal." So I changed my strategy. Now, if there's a card I really want, I bid so aggressively that I either win it or lose it to another collector, as the hammer price will make it very difficult to flip quickly or profitably. And if the latter happens, then so be it. There are tons of guys trying to make money with baseball cards. Personally, I've found better ways to invest my time and money, but as a full-fledged capitalist, I can't find issue with the practice.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

I can certainly understand the sentiment behind the OP's post. A couple years ago, I kept losing ebay auctions to professional eBay flipper, Mike Denero. It was frustrating as hell, but then I realized the problem was me: I was bidding for a "deal." So I changed my strategy. Now, if there's a card I really want, I bid so aggressively that I either win it or lose it to another collector, as the hammer price will make it very difficult to flip quickly or profitably. And if the latter happens, then so be it. There are tons of guys trying to make money with baseball cards. Personally, I've found better ways to invest my time and money, but as a full-fledged capitalist, I can't find issue with the practice.

Perfectly stated.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Seems like the general consensus on here is that a flipper can do as they please. A lot of times I list stuff on here to move. For example I just sold a Type 1 Ruth on here for $450. I paid $250. Its worth $750. I made my money and who cares lol meat on the bone all around. Would you not buy that ruth photo if the person who bought it from me was asking $700 because he paid $450 and you missed out?

[frankbmd]

Imagine a stock broker, who doesn't give a damn about the stock he is selling, and only focuses on his commission.

Imagine an attorney, who doesn't give a damn about the verdict, and only works for his contingency or retainer.

Imagine a politician, who cares less about his constituents than re-election and selling influence.

Imagine a fast food chain, that gladly complies with doubling the minimum wage and then has to resort to cutting its workforce using robots in order to remain solvent.

Then

Imagine a baseball card collector with a passion for his collection, who uses the hobby as an escape from all of the above, who buys wisely and ultimately can sell fairly to another younger collector, breaking even or even realizing a small profit.

There are more than a few of us in this category on the forum. There are others who are not.

I'm not dissing all brokers, attorneys, politicians, hamburger flippers and card flippers, but to suggest that the true card collector and the quick flipper are in the same category is a fallacy in my opinion.

I do reserve the right to be called a tortoise flipper though as I upgrade my collection.

I rest my case, your honor.

[bobbyw8469]

[but to suggest that the true card collector and the quick flipper are in the same category is a fallacy in my opinion.

Agreed....on Ebay at least, the card flipper pays more. Like someone else said, Mike Denero has been one of my biggest customers for a while. Same with Dean Hawley.

[ALR-bishop]

I am trying Frank, but can not seem to imagine any of those things

[Peter_Spaeth]

The days of Carter and Barker exchanging mimeographed lists and trading cards by mail is long since gone. Cards are collectibles but they are also commodities, and it's only the profits in buying and selling them that results in their being widely available. Sell to whoever you like, but calling here for a list of flippers I find obnoxious. And I am not even a flipper as such.

[obcbobd]

It might be better to start a list of known "collectors" who definitely are not buying a card to flip.

Verifying that list might be a bit difficult :-)

[mybuddyinc]

Surprised it took this long ....................

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[Ronnie73]

Originally Posted by mybuddyinc

Surprised it took this long ....................

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................ I really have nothing intelligent to add (like normal )

Trust me, I was thinking it from the beginning.

[the-illini]

Once you start following auctions, eBay, message boards etc you will not need a list of flippers - it becomes quite clear who buys items with the intent to resell.

Also, if they pay my price, I don't care what they do with the card. if they do the legwork to find a buyer who will pay a higher price than I ask, more power to them.

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by the-illini

Also, if they pay my price, I don't care what they do with the card. if they do the legwork to find a buyer who will pay a higher price than I ask, more power to them.

Chris, agree 100%

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

On a side note, when I run my .99 cent auctions, around 85% of the winners, are, YOU GUESSED IT, flippers!! I see my auction cards usually up for sale the following week for more money than the auction went for, sometimes substantially more. Do I like it? Of course not - it usually means I lost my ass on a card if a flipper won it. With Ebay though, the UNDERBIDDER determines the final price, not the winning bidder. Without those card flippers, my cheap cards would sell even cheaper!! Not knocking those non-flippers, but those guys are usually cheap (expletive) who want a card for next to nothing, to hell with the "value". More food for thought for this comical thread.

what's your ebay ID???

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

what's your ebay ID???

I have a link on this forum in the Ebay section.

[sox1903wschamp]

Originally Posted by the-illini

Also, if they pay my price, I don't care what they do with the card. if they do the legwork to find a buyer who will pay a higher price than I ask, more power to them.

Like Jay, totally agree with Chris.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by quinnsryche

If someone buys a card for a set price, isn't it their's to do with what they please? I don't understand the OP's complaint. Sour grapes because you didn't get what you wanted? Not trying to start a fight but that's a ridiculous complaint. Are we all supposed to declare our intentions on every purchase from now on? Someone got something at a good price and is trying to make a profit. This is still The United States of America last I checked.

What about sellers who say they need to sell the card to pay for medication yet its listed week after week. I never cared anyones reasons

[swarmee]

I am a flipper.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I am a flipper.

I have sold a lot of cards and not one of them I bought planning to sell. But things change over time, interests go in other directions. Sometimes you just see something else you want more and want to lock in some appreciation in something else. All good. No big deal. That's what makes the hobby interesting.

I am constantly irked by some dude who buys pictures from RMY and immediately lists them for outrageous markups. But what can you do. If I wanted it that bad I should have won at RMY.

[Michael Peich]

Chris-I could not agree more with your statement. Now let's hope that lots of buyers flock to our table at the National and buy cards from you, Tim and me.
They can then flip away with abandon!

Cheers, Mike