National Game Cobb Reprint?

[brianp-beme]

Pro Grading is known for being real lax on trimmed cards, but do they also authenticate reprints? Check out this listing...doesn't this look like a reprint?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1913-Nationa...kAAOSwkEVXF-sI

Brian

[swarmee]

Not sure what part of that POOR card they graded as a "Fine 4".

[Leon]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Pro Grading is known for being real lax on trimmed cards, but do they also authenticate reprints? Check out this listing...doesn't this look like a reprint?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1913-Nationa...kAAOSwkEVXF-sI

Brian

Yes they have a history of grading reprints. I found out the hard way a few years ago. At that time I didn't think they did. I was wrong. And that is a crummy fake shown too. I remember several years ago a dealer at the National had a card just like that in his case. I never could convince him it was fake so quit trying after a few attempts.
And I didn't even see it's being sold by Probstein. I guess I should send them my mistakes too.
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[bbeck]

I own the #2 PSA registry set of the National Game and that is 100% a reprint. Not really surprising who is selling it.

[Bruinsfan94]

As someone who knows nothing about this set, could someone explain why this card is a reprint? What are the signs? The same seller has a Wagner from that set that looks to be in the same condition but is graded by SGC.

[drcy]

The ink on these common National Game reprints is brown not black. But the best universal reprint identification test for rounded corner cards (factory cut rounded corner cards, that is) is to compare the corners to the corners of a genuine card. The reprints corners are usually clearly and significantly different (smaller, larger, different curve) in comparison. And that is the case with the common brown ink National Game reprints.

Cards that are die cut into non-rectanglular shapes, including round cards, are easier to identify as authentic, because it's hard to exactly and neatly duplicate the die cut-- especially by scissors or papercutter. It's easy to make a rectangle on your papercutter, but a Scrapps or Colgan's Chip, not so much. The reprints of the National Game cards were factory made, so the cut is neat, but they didn't even try to duplicate the curve of the corners.

[swarmee]

Well, it ends in under 5 hours. I have sent their eBay account a message to pull it and linked this thread. I would recommend others doing the same. Since he is a board member and does accept returns, I am not going to report it as a forgery through eBay channels.