A word concerning board friendliness

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I have never seen Leon use his moderator authority to limit hobby-healthy discourse about the age-old concerns that plague us - fraud, shilling, doctoring, etc. The board had become a soap box for some to publicize what would normally be fair opinions, but all-too-often come laced with personal shots against other members. When a good argument turns into holier-than-thou name-calling, intelligence-comparing, and (unfriendly) grammar-policing it devalues the quality and substance of the discourse for all of us. Far from the risks of censorship referenced above, Leon's actions actually have the opposite effect of promoting the free exchange of ideas, without the worry of a personal retort. At least, I am certain that this is Leon's intent, and it is a noble one. I, for one, applaud the effort.

+1. Well said.

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

$5000.00 flat rate.

The more you bid the lower the percentage.

How about a BST transacton with, say, a timeshare arrangement? I have a brand spanking new 1976 Menko medium small disc set of 12, with 6 Japanese HOFers, custody to remain with the present owner, for 225 Japanese yen (around $2.20). FYI, trade retail value of $19.99, plus shipping, book value of $110. Visitation rights twice annually, at a time and place to be negotiated. In kind, owner and proprietor of "What's your monster number" will consider adding an alumni section consisting of retired, or sold, sets from Net54 members...yadda yadda

[nolemmings]

It Ain't Censorship If It Promotes Healthy Discussion

Um, yes it is. You can approve of it, but strictly speaking, it is still censorship.

And, sorry, I do not applaud the recent banishments, which as I understand have been lifted.

Talk amongst yourselves.

[japhi]

Would anyone that posts here continue to let a neighbor in to your dinner parties that pee's on the seat and gets in fights with the other guests?

I owned a pretty high traffic forum back in the day and closed it down because of the number of assholes that forums attract. And for what it's worth this is the most liberal board I've ever seen, you can trash the owner, post links to Haul of Shame articles and very little goes poof.

And seriously, how does an adult get banned from a community like this? Are the guys getting banned from forums like this getting kicked out of bars and movie theaters? Getting in fights at Thanksgiving with the in-laws?

[sportscardpete]

the issue here is that the people that are banned still offer considerable insight and transparency to their collection. Rob may be "snarky" (I can see why people would say that, but I find his posts quite humorous), but he is also incredibly helpful if you ask him, and is extremely fair with all his BST listings (a bit of a rarity on the forum).

Jeff + Wonka are also the very few who have considerable collections, and share these with the forum overall. Many others remain silent.

Again not agreeing/disagreeing, but I think people banned on other forums bring ZERO to the table.

[Yoda]

Matt, I liked your response. Having had some experience with trying to deal with the dickheads on my old board, Fullcount, I sympathize with my old friend Leon's predicament on how to tame the crazy's on his forum. Regrettably, I had to shut down Fullcount after my lawyer spoke of potential liabilities. First amendment rights are, of course, critical in our democratic society, but whatever happened to common courtesy? We need the forum's platform to cry out. Who else is going to listen to us? John

[Bocabirdman]

Bottom line folks......This is Leon's baby/heartache/headache. He makes the calls. Chances are, not everybody is going to agree with every one he makes. As the constipated man said, "Tough Sh*t".

[bobbyw8469]

Again not agreeing/disagreeing, but I think people banned on other forums bring ZERO to the table.

Depends on their reason for getting banned. Mine was because people were calling me at my job trying to get me fired. I complained about it and got banned. Does that seem fair to you? Blame the victim?

[bobbyw8469]

..and before you begin to doubt me, I can honestly tell you that happened. Some forum members are nothing more than big pieces of shit. That is a shitty move, to do something like that to someone just because you have a disagreement with them on an internet board.

Oh, I forgot, they also posted personal information about me on another forum board (not PSA)...how would you feel if someone did that to you? Put yourself in another man's shoes....

[glchen]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Depends on their reason for getting banned. Mine was because people were calling me at my job trying to get me fired. I complained about it and got banned. Does that seem fair to you? Blame the victim?

I don't think Pete was trying to lump you in that group, Bobby. More talking about generalities where on some boards there are a bunch of trolls, just trying to stir up arguments.

[Jeff_cvc]

Originally Posted by drmondobueno

Agree with you to a point. I always understood Net54 to be a place to go and discuss, share, and on occasion, to point out issues concerning a hobby gone positively and absolutely mad, our passion for collecting. In many cases it is a way of life - baseball certainly was when I was much younger- and, for guys like Leon - hello, Leon! - a way to make a living. And most certainly, the elephant in the room is money. And all the.... Uh, stuff in this hobby that comes with it.

I have personally avoided participation recently as I noticed the board turning ugly, IMHO. Several recent threads turned into feeding frenzies. Really a turn off for me. Gotta be honest here, if I wanted confrontation, I'd move back to L A.

Keep it real, but keep it civil. Funny works, too.

By the way, I sold my T206 set recently at auction and have yet to regret it. Too much. I kept a hundred or so dupes, mostly lower condition and ungraded. There is something charming about a beater that speaks to the human condition, at least to me. Human creation, artistry, inventiveness, frailty, time and entropy, the celebration of sport, achievement, a life well lived and honored with a piece of mishandled cardboard by ten year olds. As Tom Waits has said, I don't wanna grow up.

Peace

Keith Temple

Keith, I really appreciate your approach about the board and the charm of a beater ++++1

[sportscardpete]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Depends on their reason for getting banned. Mine was because people were calling me at my job trying to get me fired. I complained about it and got banned. Does that seem fair to you? Blame the victim?

I should of wrote 99%.. I did not mean you at all just saying that most people who are banned are trolls (not you).. but I do think you need a snickers bar

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

I should of wrote 99%.. I did not mean you at all just saying that most people who are banned are trolls (not you).. but I do think you need a snickers bar

LMAO!!! That's my normal demeanor!

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Some forum members are nothing more than big pieces of shit.

You mean ex-forum members. Bill Holler is no longer a forum member

Then again, he might have an alt somewhere.

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Some forum members are nothing more than big pieces of shit...

Yup. And some are downright hilarious. Adrian, among others.....yo, Adrian.