Which Would You Rather Have?

[Joshchisox08]

The real question is were these PWCC auctions and where they labeled as "Nice for the grade" ???

[Leon]

Originally Posted by DezHood

Or more depending how the card is weighted

I actually looked him up, not knowing anything about basketball and the Spurs retired his number, but I agree, doubt the collector was motivated by anything but the registry.

+1

[pokerplyr80]

With that Moore card I would be concerned that there are probably thousands of ungraded cards lying around in various collections or unopened packs and boxes. How much is the value going to drop if another 10 cards get the PSA 10 grade? Or another 20?

A few months ago I saw an unopened 86 fleer case for sale on Ebay for $300k. Were someone to break and grade the entire case I'm sure they'd find at least a few Moore 10s.

[pawpawdiv9]

Makes me wonder??? I might have a Moore laying around. Several yrs ago i bought 2 unopened packs. Of course i opened them. I stored them in a binder.
I posted several times before, thats when the USPS lost 2 (Worthy & a checklist) card i was sending to Beckett.
Make me wanna check now???

[pokerplyr80]

I would certainly take a look. You might have a 12k card in that binder.

[CobbvLajoie1910]

Originally Posted by rob d.

he must also dabble in ice cream collectibles.

lol.

[pawpawdiv9]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I would certainly take a look. You might have a 12k card in that binder.

Nope, not that 'lucky' guy, just had
#58 clark kellog
#63 lafayette lever
#59 albert king
#60 bernard king
#61 bill laimbeer
#127 randy wittman
#62 allen leavell
#128 al wood
#129 mike woodson
#130 orlando woolride
#4/11 sticker -alex english
and the metioned lost:
Worthy & checklist

Of course some of these could past for 10's and some the centering is off, but i just kept them in the binder, since i dont do basketball.
Same goes with the whole box of 81-82 i bought and sent in the Larry Birds and got back SGC 9 & 8.5's on those. Others are in binders as well.
I am not so much into sending them off to grade.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9

Makes me wonder??? I might have a Moore laying around. Several yrs ago i bought 2 unopened packs. Of course i opened them. I stored them in a binder.
I posted several times before, thats when the USPS lost 2 (Worthy & a checklist) card i was sending to Beckett.
Make me wanna check now???

I hear of stories from almost every one I tell about my involvement in the card hobby and they always tell me about childhood collections. I always tell them that unopened stuff and pristine cards, from the 1970s and 1980s (which is a lot of what I and I presume others hear about) can be worth a lot of money.

[Econteachert205]

The pop reports show the Moore is the toughest to get in psa 10 with 28 examples. But think of how many prewar cards are that much rarer than that. Plus if there are 28 psa 10 Moore cards already there have to be more laying around waiting to be graded.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Econteachert205

The pop reports show the Moore is the toughest to get in psa 10 with 28 examples. But think of how many prewar cards are that much rarer than that. Plus if there are 28 psa 10 Moore cards already there have to be more laying around waiting to be graded.

Rare doesn't matter as much as demand does with respect to value....(I know, I know I always say that...)

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Leon

Rare doesn't matter as much as demand does with respect to value....(I know, I know I always say that...)

Economically and mathematically, value is proportional to demand over supply, meaning that price is determined by the relationship of the one to the other.

Larry

[4815162342]

Which Would You Rather Have?

1985 O-Pee-Chee Mario Lemieux PSA 10
Winning Bid: $10,988.00
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400936776275


- OR -

1909-11 American Caramel E90-1 Joe Jackson SGC 30
Winning Bid: $11,042.40
http://www.goodwinandco.com/1909_11_...-LOT30282.aspx

[ls7plus]

I can at least understand the Lemieux, but doubt he'll have the lasting value of Jackson, who doesn't even have to be a HOF'er to be an icon (he is one of 8 or so players who created 200% or greater of the number of runs a league average player of the same era would create--a Bill James stat that I personally favor as the best yardstick of comparing players across eras. I've always considered the demand for ultra high grade cards as something almost artificial in character.The collectors of such cards deceive themselves into thinking what they have is rare and significant, and therefore actually represents value. From my perspective, while there is a vast difference in price between a gem mint "10" and a very nice "8," the substantive difference between the two is really quite small, although not completely insignificant. What the "10" collector is really paying for is the plastic slab and the paper grading slip inside. It's not too different from buying smoke and hype, instead of substance. And while I understand the demand created by the PSA registry, I have seen many, many of these high-grade set collections first assembled and then shortly thereafter broken up, which leads one to question the lasting significance of both the individual high-graded commons that comprise the set, and the set itself. I would therefore question whether there is lasting value in such condition rarities, where there is an ample supply of the same card in only slightly lower condition.

Just my thoughts,

Larry