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Posted By: Ernest
Sports Collectors Digest (SCD) has become nothing, but a paper to advertise auctions. I have subscribed to there magazine since 1990 and enjoyed reading the articles they places in them up until now. I am not interested in that sort of thing. I can see that anytime right here on the Internet or of this site. I have been an collector of Sports Collectors Digest (SCD) since 1990 and still have everyone as of today. I am extremely disappointed in the direction they are currently going. I hope they will reverse the trend and go back to more articles even thou these auction articles are supporting SCD to be printed. What do you experts think about this magazine? Forget, Bob Lemke I am only talking about the magazine as a whole. |
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Posted By: dennis
before the internet it was indespensible now it is obsolete. my subscription expired about 6 years ago. never really thought they put much effort into articles even in its heyday. |
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Posted By: DJ
I picked up my first issue in ten years (I have some serious issues with the magazine that I'm not going to go into) three weeks ago and I lost interest in the first ten minutes. |
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Posted By: joe
I've been a subscriber since 1976, this will be my last year. I remember when it took 2-3 days to peruse the magazine, unfortunately now it is less then 1/2 hour. |
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Posted By: FYS
If your on all the auction mailing lists for catalogues, SCD is of little value. I do like the fact that for $25 a year, I receive several amazing auction catalogues due to my SCD subscription. For that alone, it is worth it for me. Otherwise, about once every three months they have an article of interest e.g. Nagy/Mastro etc. |
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Posted By: Jim Crandell
I let my subscription expire 4 weeks ago. |
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Posted By: matt
I find the magazine useful for the listing of upcoming shows, the Top Ten Online Auctions and Feedback. |
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Posted By: Bruce Babcock
I don't think SCD realizes the negative affect that aligning themsleves so closely with Alan Rosen has had. He doesn't know much about collecting and he doesn't care much for sports or collectors. What is he known for? Self-promotion and lowball, one-time, take it or leave it offers. He may be their biggest and most visible advertiser but he may also be their biggest liability. Certainly their biggest asset is Bob Lemke. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Bruce- that is an excellent point, and as I have said before, their policy that allows him to appear on nearly every cover waving hundred dollar bills sets them so far back in public relations that it may not be worth the added advertising revenue. What other magazine would allow such a thing? |
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Posted By: Anonymous
I am letting my subscription run out too........I usually lokk at Mike Mosiers,Steve Werley and Zindlers ad in the back and then close it up!So many ads and not enough stories! |
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Posted By: Jim Clarke
Bruce your reason is 100% correct! I dropped my subscription years ago along with many other friends of mine. Al Rosen is the main reason. We did not want to support any magazine that puts that guy in it. I wrote the SCD to complain about him and it went un-answered. Then I wanted to start a Al Rosen Club where SCD offered a FREE advertisement renual... I did it and they did not run the AD.. However, they cashed my check... That was the last straw... I think some attourney could have had fun with this one going against the book. Is Beckett following down the same long DARK road? I think Bob lemke is a great guy and keeps alot of respect with SCD. |
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Posted By: Josh Adams
I am thinking of starting my own business, and wanted to advertise in some publications in order to acquire inventory. |
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt
not sure if you do auto's or not but I couldn't support them either on the basis of Coaches Corner auctions. RIDICULOUS all the fake crap that they sell and any moron could determine it was fake from their listings. Tim Keefe autographed ball that sells for $1500-$2000, come on........... |
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Posted By: Anthony
Josh- |
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Posted By: DJ
I have all the respect in the world for Mr. Lemke as well and it's a shame that when you think of SCD, you think of Alan Rosen, more than you think of Mr. Lemke. |
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Posted By: cn
The timing of this topic is perfect. 3 years ago my wife gave me a surprise 3 year extension when I was going to cancel after over 20 years and it just expired recently. Today I recieved a phone call from a very nice lady from Krause publications reminding me that I haven,t renewed. I decided to have a minute of fun and after haggling about the price I told her that I would renew if I didn,t have to see MR. MINT anymore. She did not know who I was talking about and proceeded to get a supervisor on the phone and I told her the same. She just laughed and said that there have been many changes in the almost 10 years that she has been there but that MR. MINT was not going away. I then cancelled my subscription once and for all after almost 20 years. What a shame I miss the days of anxiously waiting for SCD, Baseball Hobby News and the beloved Trader Speaks. I am thankful for OLD CARDBOARD. CN |
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Posted By: glyn parson
Though nowhere near the important publication it used to be, Heck i used to get it overnighted to me, i still enjoy Scd. especially the auction articles and the articles on some of the big shows. i dont really pick up any new info but still enjoy the read. i must agree though that the coaches corner crap auctions and all the Mr. Mint BS do aggrivate me. |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
totally worthless. I dropped my subscription last year and don't miss it a bit. Bob's book is the best available but the rag is a ... rag. The amount of fake garbage sold in there is astounding. I cannot believe that the FBI hasn't dropped a hammer on Coach's Corner. |
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt
Coach's Corner can still auction crap is because Jack Chesbro and Rube Foster are both dead! It's really ridiculous though. The almighty ad dollar is paramount to SCD so they take the stuff. Rosen is Rosen, but Coach's Corner must go........they make WIWAG look like choir boys........ |
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Posted By: Jay
If I remember correctly Ted Taylor writes summaries of the Coaches Corner auctions for SCD. What is his tie to the CCA, if any? Is he involved with an authentication company? |
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Posted By: Tim Riordan
Most of the authenticated stuff on Coaches Corner is authenticated by STAT Authentic, which is an acronym for Stevens-Taylor Authentication Team, Taylor being Ted Taylor. |
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Posted By: DJ
STAT and Chris Morales, both the preferred authenticators for Coach's Corner failed "miserably" (Arman Ketayan's narrated words, not mine) according to the HBO Real Sports special and for many, many years, they used Donald Frangipani who was the main focus in the TV special. |
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Posted By: Steve
I agree about Coach;s Corner. It is disgusting but any collector who is winning those items at such low prices is part of the problem. This is one business where people think that something can be too good to be true; this is especially dangerous when it comes to autographs for obvious reasons -- Steve |
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Posted By: DJ
Steve, |
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Posted By: Anonymous
I still enjoy leafing through the SCD, but it's definitely lost it's way a bit. |
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Posted By: Lee Behrens
When I got back into collecting in 2000 I bought an SCD. There was an ad for Festberg auctions. I bid I won, I got ripped off by serious over grading and a NO return policy ( He did offer to fire his grader). The guy was a total piece of doodoo. He was suppose to be a respected dealer. I have never bought another one and have no intention because the content was of zero interest to me. |
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Posted By: Glyn Parson
Welcome,i enjoy your posts over at CU. you can learn more from these boards, about prewar, in one day then over on the Cu boards in a whole year. |
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Posted By: Frank Rose
If SCD isn't your bag anymore, there are independent publishers like Old Cardboard, Sweetspot News, Boxing Collectors News, The Autograph Review (Jeff Morey) and Gridiron Greats Magazine to consider. We all aspire to inform and entertain in the world of vintage material. |
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Posted By: nbrazil
i had a 6 week trial of SCD....some decent articles, but for the most part it was a bunch of shady auctions and a big picture of a bald al rosen. safe to say i didnt continue with my subscription. |
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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Does anyone remember a music video called "Video killed the radio star"? |
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Posted By: ArnyVee
Glyn, thanks for the nice comments. I'm looking forward to really diving into researching the pre-war cards. For now, I think that I'll be going for the 1911 Mecca Double Headers as they seem relatively inexpensive and look very good in even PSA 4 or 5. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I like Jim C's comment way back up there... |
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Posted By: Lyman Hardeman
Arny, I noticed that you twice asked on this thread about the usefulness of Old Cardboard magazine for meeting your vintage card information needs. Although I realize that I am not the one to give you an objective reply, I would like to invite you to take a look at the Old Cardboard website. To help answer your question, we have provided an abstract (with author and thumbnail images) of every article that we have ever published beginning with Issue #1 (and including Issue #7, which gets mailed next week). The article summaries can be accessed at http://www.oldcardboard.com/subscriptions.asp. You should be able to draw your own conclusion about the usefullness of the magazine for your needs by taking a look at these abstracts. |
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Posted By: dylan's picks
I do agree with the "Al Rosen" to a point. His so called "advertisments" are annoying and having spoken with him on a few occasions while brokering a couple of deals I realized that I would much rather just see his ads than have to see him or talk to him ever!! Someone stated that he is like an "used car dealer" & that's exactley correct. I broker several deals a month & ran into an excellent collection that contained tons of vintage/pre-war cards, present day rookies, GU, auto'd inserts, 1of1s, figures, some great auto'd items (mantle bat, 500 HR litho, etc..)(& YES they were authentic LOL), and a lot more incredible memorabilia including vintage gloves, Game used items, etc.. and tons of almost never seen items like a Babe Ruth advertisment display among others. ANyways, I would have bought the collection myself & pieced it out, but I had just bought a ton of stuff and had surgery so i was unable to move it quickly. I thought I'd give ROsen a call, which I had done on a few previous occasions a good while back, & he at first couldn't believe the price i was quoting b/c it was a truly great price. He questioned authenticity of the auto's, which prob. made up less than 10% of the value & at the price you could have just thrown them out & made a killing still. Next he began to low-ball me believing I was just some idiot that had inherited the collection or something (He obviously didn't remember me). To sum it up he was such an idiot on the phone by contradicting himself that it made me thankful that "ads" couldn't speak. Maybe the guy is a nice guy, maybe not, but I do know in this business you do have to have some sort of people skills & it sure didn't seem like his were there... Anyways, I partnered with a buyer & purchased the lot about a week later & within a month we sold maybe 20% of the collection & both doubled our investment...That's how "LOWBALL" he can be.. |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
I asked JSA to authenticate an autograph for a friend who got it in person from the famous athlete family friend; they said they could not tell if it was real. On any given day any given item can be graded or not graded by these guys. |
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Posted By: arcade
If the majority of your magazine is the same stagnant advertising which hasn't changed much in the past 20+ years, and a bunch of market reports in place of articles...well....you're not offering up much more then a bad market...and since the market for vintage cards is relatively healthy right now, SCD just seems far too out of step with the needs of the collecting trade. You can't be a magazine without content. Advertisements for bulk commons isn't content. |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
The job of an authenicator is not to say authentic or cross out as fake anything and everything that is put underneath his nose-- but to pick out the things deemed authentic and write an LOA, attach a hologram or whatever they do. No one knows everything, so worry about the 'expert' who claims he does. If an autograph expert says he's doesn't know so won't give an LOA, that's a good sign. Worry about the authenticator who never says he doesn't know or who provides an LOA when in doubt. |
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Posted By: Dylan
I just opened up the November Football Beckett and on the first page inside the cover there he was... Mr. Mint himself!! Looks like beckett is heading the same way.. LOL |
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Posted By: DJ
The idea of authenticating via of a scan is something and something is better than nothing. |
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Posted By: Alan
Excellent analysis, DJ !!! |
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Posted By: Rhys
I think an interesting fact about the autograph industry is that you can manipulate the statistics to prove whatever you want about them. I once spoke to the man who was responsible for representing all of Warren Spahn's autograph siginings etc for years. He told me he had never seen a fake Warren Spahn autograph in his life because there were so many, and they were so cheap. Same with Feller, and people like that. You could take that stat and run with it to represent the health of the hobby. If you take Ruth, Gehrig and just about any Negro Leaguer who died before 1990 though, you are probably at about 5% authentic and could run with that statistic. |
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Posted By: Larry
SCD was the best newspaper in the industry, now it is only good for packing material... |
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Posted By: CS Bolay
I've only subscribed to SCD for a couple years, but it bothers me that I never seem to see much of anything 'controversial,' i.e. things that might make their advertisers mad. Whether this is intended or not I can't say, but there is a glaring lack of real tough 'journalism' involved here. |
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Posted By: Cn
The most recent issue has only 52 pages. What a shame that this once great publication has fallen so far. I remember before the internet age when it always had over 200 pages and I couldn't wait each week for it to arrive. CN |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Are 25 of those pages devoted to Coach's Corner ads? |
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Posted By: Jeff Sherman
I remember years back when I got SCD (sometimes in two, even three sections!!!!), and I would hurriedly look through the ads to see if there was anything that jumped out on me, so I could call the seller and make sure I got to him/her/them first.... now, nothing, truly nothing... I let my subscription lapse in January... I didn't even realize it until I saw a copy on a newsstand and said, hey I guess I let that lapse.. how sad... |
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Posted By: peter chao
The only thing I like about SCD now days is the eye-catching cover. But normally I do not buy a magazine for it's cover. Once in a long while I'll buy an issue because I like the feel of a hard copy instead of surfing on the internet. |
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Posted By: CN
I know it has been stated before but I recieved an issue today with 46 pages. As far as I know my subscription expired a while ago but they keep sending me issues. I don't know how they make any money. It is sad how this publication has turned into junk with the same ads week after week. CN |
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Posted By: Steve Murray
Boy, I remember twenty plus years ago eagerly waiting for the SCD to arrive. Rushing home from work only to be letdown that it hadn't arrived yet. I saved the old copies for years until my script ran out five or six years ago. Sorry too to see the rag fall on such hard times but that's what the internet will do to you. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
It's probably on its last legs. Toy Shop magazine which I believe is owned by the same company has gone out of business. |
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