52 mantle on EBAY

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Posted By: Vanessa Phipps

Anybody have an opinion on this card? LOL! I mean this card cant be real right? If it is not then is actually worth over $300? If it is reall we are looking at a 500,000 dollar card!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1952-Topps-Mickey-Mantle-Rookie-Card-311_W0QQitemZ130157780842QQihZ003QQcategoryZ60480Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Rock On!! Fire Houston Nutt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted By: Mark T

Worth maybe $3.00...reprint all the way. look at the gloss.

Edited to say: look at the Black line border. Looks way to thick. And the ? in the title says it all.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

First of all, as Leon demonstrates from time to time, a real card is always scanned with a quarter, not a penny.

Next, it is a reprint of modern size, not the larger 1952 size. Mark T has it nailed.

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Posted By: Joseph

The question mark in the listing's title is all you need to know.

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Posted By: Steve Murray

California USA seller adds the dimensions to his listing, per many requests, and uses the metric system. What an ahole!

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Posted By: Vanessa Phipps

Absolutely right guys! But someone is paying over 300 for this card? I mean a 1983 reprint in PSA 10 condition has sold for over 200 but this is kind of crazy!!!

Rock On dudes! Fire Houston Nutt!!!

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Posted By: Bob Pomilla

Q:
Metric system? You are a jerk.
Sep-29-07

A:
Okay, Is that comment necessary? 70mm x 98mm = 2.75" x 3.85" Thanks.

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Posted By: Steve Murray

Glad I didn't say what I really felt.

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Posted By: davidcycleback

The answer is if the seller was unsure if it was reprint or $100,000+ real, he
would have sent it in to PSA (or SGC). In fact, if he was certain it was
$100,000 real it would be in a PSA (or SGC) holder. Looking at it reasonably,
it can be deduced that either he sent the card in to a grader and it was rejected
or he never sent it in as he knew (and knows) it is a reprint. My guess would be
the latter, as, as already noted, the reprints are a different size than the originals
and thus easy to identify. Duly note that none of the above scenarios involve the seller
at sale time being unsure of what is the card (whether original or reprint) and give reason
for including a '?' in the title. In other words, each scenario involves the seller
knowing what he has for sale at auction time (original or reprint) and being able to
say what he has for sale. In other other words, the seller knows what he has for sale
and he isn't telling reprint tales and putting ?'s in the title because he knows
it's original.

Reminds me of the '1952 Topps Mantle' seller who was offering the card ungraded
for what was about a $10,000 discount because, according to him, he didn't want
to bother paying the PSA grading fee. For a $10,000 return, Carlos Helu (richest
man in the world) would bother to pay the PSA grading fee.

Often times you can identify fakes and reprints without having to even look
at the pictures.

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Posted By: Dan P.

The scan in the listing looks suspicious to me too as being a real T52 Mantle. Also, for UPS shipping from CA, I'd figure he'd reference the farthest possible zip code for rate calculation. 19095-2703 is in Wyncote, PA--right outside of Philly (I know because this is my zip code).