T206 collectors.....whats the average age of collectors?

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Posted By: Jason L

Hope it's a good one.

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Posted By: barry arnold

Many thanks, Joe P. !
You are quite right about the thrill, the exhilaration which comes from
collecting this amazing Monster.Lately, I have found myself a wee bit
consumed with backs---my latest acquisition being a Breitenstein Hindu.
The aesthetics, the history, the 'anomalies',the camaraderie---what more
could one ask for from 'little pieces of cardboard'.

all the best,

Barry

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Posted By: Bob

57 and I feel sorry for you young pups who missed the 60's. They were great!!!

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Posted By: barry arnold

the 60's are still with some of us,Bob!

best,

Barry

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Posted By: Turner Engle

Not a T206 collector, but I have had my share of them.

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Posted By: barrysloate

I've never outgrown the 60's...and the one timeless thing about it is the music!

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Posted By: Joe Pelaez

HOBBY...
Main Entry: 2hobby
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural hobbies
Etymology: short for hobbyhorse
: a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in especially for relaxation
- hob·by·ist/-be-ist/ noun

Maitain that attitude and enjoy.

Joe P.

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Posted By: Joe Jones

Just turned 26 in May.

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Posted By: Bob Pomilla

"They" say if you remember the sixties, you weren't really there .

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Posted By: barrysloate

All the chemicals have worn off by now!

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Posted By: T206Collector

....the family is taking me to the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome, where I can see planes built in the years my cards were printed flying around the sky... Great stuff.

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Posted By: judson hamlin

38 (for a few more weeks anyway) going on either 19 or 59, depending on how work is going. Started my T206 set about 20 years ago and just hit #510 (Thornton)

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Posted By: Dave Hornish

45, yo

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Posted By: Joe Pelaez

Sound off when you hit 511.

Joe P.

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Posted By: barry arnold

congratulations, Judson!
we should have a 500 Club--sort of like the 500 homers club!

all the best,

Barry

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Posted By: Paul S

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However, aside from a few scattered items that pretty much jumped in front of me and begged, I haven't considered myself "active" since I was about 19, although I've always considered myself one (truth be told, you are all close to jumpstarting me again.) Last t206 I bought was probably when I was 17. I would have advised Peter C's eternal question of "What is the best time to invest?" as being, "buy young", but now I see it's several centuries too late for him.


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Posted By: peter chao

Guys,

Do you realize that in our hands we have more T-206 cards than both the dealers and the auction houses have combined. That means that if we refuse to sell to them the price for T-206s would go up. At least that is the theory.

Peter

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Posted By: Justin

I am 26, and have only recently made the decision to collect T206. I am starting out with Hall of Famers and going from their.

So far I only have Matty(dark cap), Eddie Collins, and Walter Johnson(hands at chest), but hopefully by the end of the week I will have a few more.

Love the set, love the colors, and I love the deadball era.

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Posted By: Paul S

...my understanding is that we have never sold to auction house, but that they have sold for us. But, considering that I am wrong and we follow the plan, which one of us gets to sell ours first? Last? All at once?

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Posted By: peter chao

Paul S.

The plan is simple keep buying and holding, the price for T206s will continue going up. It seems to be working so far and we probably haven't been trying too hard.

Peter

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Posted By: Dylan

24, really just collect the T206 backs tho

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Posted By: Paul S

Okay, but I get to sell first!

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Posted By: peter chao

Actually, selling is not a problem, as long as we buy a lot more than we sell. It seems like things are going well considering prices of T-206 is consistently going up and we are all bitching and moaning about high prices.

Peter

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Posted By: Eric

I just turned 30 this month. I started collecting T-206's in January of this year. I have 49 as of right now. All but 2 are PSA slabbed. Most are lower grade cards. Once I got my first card I was hooked. I love this set.

I seem to change my collecting focus ever year with something new, but I finally found something that I know I'll be collecting for a while. And I plan on keeping my cards. So lets keep hoarding these cards

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Posted By: Derek

25
I collect mainly Pre 1973 SGC and PSA cards. I also deal alot with Pre 1970 wax. And i love cobb
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Posted By: boxingbaseballgolf33

I am 31 and have been selling and collecting pre-war for 7 years

Jimmy

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Posted By: Scot Reader

39

Bought my first five between ages 13 and 17; my next 150+ between ages 36 and 39.

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Posted By: CN

I am 45 and started collecting t206 cards at the Golden Gate shows in Brooklyn and the Hofstra shows in the late 70,s when the shows were an event.CN

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

1st collected BB cards as a kid in 1947

Returned to the BB card hobby in 1977 and I'm now working on my 4th T206 set....

But, I get the most enjoyment from these cards in researching them....the Players, Series, T-brands, the history, etc.

Age.....you do the math ?

TED Z

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Posted By: Mike Ellis

I am 64 and have been collecting since the early 1950s. My T206 set is missing three (Doyle, Plank and Wagner)and I started trying to finish it in earnest about ten years ago.

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Posted By: Mike Ernst

Just turned 60, but had T-206's complete less the big three when I was 26. Still need the same cards.

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Posted By: Robert Reiss

43 Hope to collect 520 of them!!!

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Posted By: Craig H

I'm 29, but I'm not really a T206 collector either. I am a back collector but I'm not as focused on it as I used to be. If I see a back I don't have I'll pick one up, but the prices of T206 have really jumped up in recent years and back collecting has really increased from what I remember a few years' ago. Someone posted on another thread that a Broadleaf 350 PSA 1 was going $200-250? I got mine a few years ago for $150--and mine is in VG+.
Sheesh.

Craig

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Posted By: Joe Pelaez

First I want to congratulate Mike Ellis, and Mike Ernst for their patience and perserverance in their pursuit of The Monster.

You know Barry A, a 500 club is not a bad idea.
You, Judson, the two Mike's and any one else that's in that plateau, is welcome to be part of the Unreachable Quest.
Anything can happen.
We've gotten this far, and when we started, who would have thought it.
Now let's see how much further we can go.
I think there might be a way of doing this.

I've been listening to our investor brethren on this forum.
You can't missed them.
They're always talking about money, or reading the Wall Street Journal.
One of the cardboard stock marketeers gave me an idea.
His vision of the sports card market is that of a rocket going straight up. ... money chasing money.
The investors are all loving it.

What goes up, must come down. ... Except for gas.

What would happen if the cardboard stock market crashed?
Would there be a panic?
Would investors want to unload, and cut down their losses?
Would collectors see wanted cards at affordable prices?
Would collectors help out the investors, for the right price?

Could something like this happen?
You betcha.
I've seen it happen in stocks.
I've seen it happen in coins.
I've seen it happen in gold.

Would I like to see it happen in the vintage card world?
You bet.

What collector wouldn't mind seeing some affordable prices?
What collector wouldn't mind talking about cards, instead of what's a better slab?
Slabs and investors changed this hobby, and it wasn't for the best.

A crash couldn't come soon enough, and the collectors and the HOBBY would survive it.

Joe P.

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Posted By: ScottIngold

37 going on 21 Got 3/4's or so done twice. Gave up twice. Moved to other stuff. Now back for past 2 or 3 years.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Joe makes an overlooked point: everyone out here seems to assume that card prices will just continue to go up forever in a straight line, much the way investors thought that the stock indexes would never falter in early 2000 after 7-8 years of steady, large gains. I remember having this discussion with a friend of mine about Cisco stock. He told me that he had bought it two years prior and the price had doubled each of the two years. I asked him if it bothered him that Cisco's earnings had only increased 50% each of those two years, not the 100% that the price increase had suggested. He responded that the stock market was different now and prices could go up faster than earnings. I laughed. That was when Cisco was around 80 a share. Now it's in the mid-20s. Baseball card values will eventually have a similar tumble.

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Posted By: MVSNYC

of course the card market will go up and down, that's normal...BUT, a crash, of sorts? not sure...i don't think it will have a "similiar" tumble as the stock market...very simply, supply & demand...there will ALWAYS be demand for a T206 Magie, a T206 Drum, a T206 Demmitt, etc...and the supply is limited. of course there will be up & down points for cards, mid-grade commons will soften, then regain strength next year. goudeys are on the rise again, but you might be able to get them for a song next fall, etc. up & down, up & down, that's normal...BUT, a "tumble"? i just don't see it...there will ALWAYS be collectors wanting/needing cards and the supply is limited...

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Posted By: steve yawitz

Yes, there's a finite supply but I wouldn't be too certain that the demand will always be there. I teach fourth grade and see very few kids interested in sports cards, at least relative to when I started collecting in the early '80s. It's possible that these kids will grow up to be vintage collectors - and I'm doing my part by giving away auction catalogs and trimmed/abused commons - but collecting has seemingly lost a considerable amount of its appeal to children in just one generation. The widespread availability of technology surely has much to do with it, but card manufacturers have certainly not helped matters.

Oh well, we 30-somethings should keep the hobby from crashing for what I hope will be at least another half century.

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

STEVE Y

You bring out a great point.....you are teaching 9 and 10 year olds and you are noticing their
non-interest in BB cards. This is sad and is typical of what I have heard in other parts of the
country.

And, this is very noticeable at BB card shows, lately. Where very few kids are attending, any
more. There are several factors for this non-interest; but, that's a subject for another thread.

TED Z

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

There's always demand for real estate too, right? More so than for T206s.

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Posted By: daryle

I'm 36. First T206(s) in 1985 at age 14 (Bresnahan (port), Delehanty, Ganzel, Scott and Howard (Chi).......all for $17.00)Still have 4 of the "original" 5 as I sold the Delehanty when I got a better one............Never pursued the set but love the cards. Have around 75 or so with several HOFers.

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Posted By: barrysloate

There will always be peaks and valleys in the vintage card market, but it's hard to envision a crash. What we need to consider is the immense popularity of baseball cards; they are pretty much ingrained in our culture. So I think we are immune from a dot.com bubble scenario, but not from the simple laws of economics.

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Posted By: Glyn Parson

35

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Posted By: Max Weder

What is the average of 12 and 49....

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Posted By: joe brennan

Jack Benny and myself confess the same age. 39 and holding. For those too young to know who Jack Benny is ask your grand parents. I know Barry knows who he is and I'll bet he is also 39.

51.

In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982. Dad, thanks for everything you did for me.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Do you mean am I old enough to remember Jack Benny? Absolutely, I used to watch his show all the time when I was young.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

I don't disagree that a crash is unlikely. However, a meltdown of significant proportions is probably likely at sometime in the not so distant future - 5 years? And for all those that are sitting on the sidelines, tongues hanging, waiting to pick up all those PSA 8 T206s for $200 -- keep in mind that the rest of the economy will be in the toilet at the same time, presumably, so you may not be so quick to pull the trigger.

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Posted By: Peter Thomas

I don't really consider myself a T206 collector, but I still have 300 or so - as for age - 65 TODAY, so I remember Benny very wellllll.

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Posted By: barrysloate

A number of people have posted that they would be thrilled if the market took a hit so that they could buy up all the cards they can't afford now. But I agree with Jeff that many of those same people might be in a pretty foul mood regarding the hobby, and might prefer instead to take a break. If the economy collapses we will all be hit in some tangible way, and buying baseball cards may suddenly not seem very important.

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Posted By: Ken W.

I'm simply a HOF collector, but I do have 14 T206's.
And I am a 45 year old Chemist/Drummer.