Perhaps a little more than just teammates?

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Posted By: Adam J. Baxter

This is a bit O/T as it's a photo and not a card, but I couldn't resist. It would appear that one of the Excelsior's players had "busy hands".



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Posted By: Julie

and because of the lack of central heating, people with no sexual interest in eachother often slept in the same beds...for years. "As in "Three Dog Night". The hot button issue was incest. With a couple of exceptions (Oscar Wilde is NOT one of them!), gay writers who wanted to write gay novels just wrote books about a lot of men, or women, having interesting relationships, not sex. Makes research into said topic very difficult.

All of which means...what? Was the closet much deeper, or much bigger?

They sho do look friendly!

If you could ask the guy on the left, he would have said, "Certainly we were friends, the best iof friends," which would have left you where you started.

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Posted By: Julie

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Posted By: Jay Miller

Equipment check:

---one bat

---two balls

O.K., lets play!

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Posted By: Lee Behrens

It looks like there might have been a third to the left, I wonder if there was some jealousy on the team.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

everyone has an aunt jim somewhere in their family.

You liberals with your pro-mosexul agenda; you're just trying to make everyone else think that that the homasexuls have been around for thousands of years. It makes me so darn mad I want to vote for another round of capital gains tax cuts;;who's with me?

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I collect baseball photographs so I run into a lot of auctions that are listed as "gay interest". I would bet they probably lose bids because of the homophobia factor.

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Posted By: Adam J. Moraine

A couple of years ago a book was published, and the author claimed that Sandy Koufax was a homosexual. Can anyone confirm or deny these accusations?

Best Regards,

Adam J. Moraine

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Posted By: Max Weder

The auction description reads:

The Brooklyn Excelsiors were one of the first organized baseball teams in America and are credited with helping to make the game our nation's national pastime. This is an important image to baseball historians and was featured in an article in Vintage and Classic Baseball Collector issue #14 1998. The article provides documentation of the discovery of the image, identification of the team and the identities of the sitters, A.T. Pearson (right) and a Mr. Holder (left). A copy of that article accompanies this lot.

We can only surmise what position Mr. Holder played.


Max

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Posted By: Chuck R

Can't tell where that other hand is

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Posted By: barrysloate

This image has been well known in the hobby for many years and the owner has told me that it was not unusual for men to pose in this manner. My guess is they were pretty macho and didn't interpret this gesture the way we are doing today. Also, the player on the left has his legs crossed; where else to put that pesky hand of his?

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Posted By: R. Cook

Did M.R. consign the rest of his collection?
Can't understand why didn't he use one of the major sports memorabilia auction houses to do it...

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Posted By: JimB

Sandy Koufax was quite upset with the accusation and denied its veracity.
JimB

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Posted By: steve k

Sandy Koufax has too much class and dignity to even answer rediculous accusations such as that. He's been married twice for - a number of years. When not married, he has been seen many times dating beautiful women. He addressed this New York Post crap properly by disassociating himself with the people who also own the Dodgers. How Sandy handled it should tell you that the answer to the gay question is "NO." Even today, someone wrongly calling a sports star gay is considered bad...in Sandy's day it was considered a brutal insult and that's how Sandy took it and that's why Sandy responded to it like he did.

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Posted By: jay behrens

Rock Hudson?

Jay

I like to sit outside drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home I would be arrested, so I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: Julie

published the end of last year, claiming to prove that Lincoln was gay (The first Log Cabin Republican...). The author, who was one of Kinsey's researchers, and wrote an earlier book on homosexuality which was quite good I'm told, did not make his case, but did a lot of interestring research--some of which is in my first post in this thread.
Name's Tripp...

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Posted By: barrysloate

The daguerreotype is a crossover piece that would also appeal to photopgraphy collectors; likewise the John Ward cigar cutter could be of interest outside the baseball hobby; thus the choice of an Americana auction such as Wes Cowan's. Wes is a good man and runs great auctions.