would it be unethical....

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Posted By: Scott Forrest

for me to auction my "set" of slab labels? I have about 50 that I thought about selling on ebay as sort of a joke, but then I thought - someone might be able to use these for unsavory purposes. Thoughts?

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Posted By: ted

Unethical.... i don't know... less than inteligent.....yes... i don't mean to sound harsh, but what could come out of someone having those labels but not the actual cards....bad bad things!

BlackSoxFan

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Posted By: Scott Forrest

it was a rhetorical question, but I thought it might generate some interesting comments.

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Posted By: Julie

Put them into nothingness...

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Posted By: Wp

send them back to psa

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Posted By: Glenn

Actually, if you're planning to get rid of them anyway, I think I'd like to incorporate them into a collage art piece. I can't guarantee it'll be anything beautiful, but I'd be happy to share pictures with the board.

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Posted By: Adam J. Baxter

Scott-
Bad idea in my opinion. Keep in mind, that if it occurred to just one person with a conscience (You), that these could be used unethically, then I'm sure that the idea to use these unethically has also occurred to 10X as many people without consciences who are just lining up to bid on such an auction.

Sometimes I wonder with all the posts we put up about how to detect fakes, scams if we inadvertantly give scammers more help then we should? For a talented scammer an auction of graded card labels would be a gift.

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Posted By: davidcycleback

If I were to sell them (which I wouldn't), I would write the buyer's name in invisiable ink on each label ... Though I doubt you would be allowed to sell them on eBay.

I say give 'em to Glenn for his collage. Wednessday I saw a Jackson Pollack oil painting at a museum and there were pebbles/fine gravel embedded in the paint.

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Posted By: Texas Ted

how do you know when you are getting low on invisible ink?

Texas Ted
Trying to find answers to life's difficult question.

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Posted By: Scott Forrest

most successful scammers are fairly intelligent (I'm obviously not talking about K Whitmore) and their minds work in devious ways that an honest person's would not, so the theory you are posing actually works in reverse. That's why you here about "successful" thieves being hired to teach people how to protect themselves, etc ("Catch me if You Can"). What we really need is one of the successful "card doctor" board members to "turn honest" and write an article on how they ply their trade and the scams we should watch out for.

Shellyjaffe is another example, if I read his previous self-description correctly - dealer in sports forgeries who now works detecting them?

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Posted By: Judge Dred

It's a free market society. There are no rules stating that the labels must be destroyed once the capsule seal is broken. You paid for the labels when you had the cards graded or you paid for them by virture of the price you paid for an encapsulated card.

Unethical - No; bad idea - probably. If they are PSA, SGC or some other reputable label then I wouldn't do it because there's always a chance that some moron will push the envelope and use them inappropriately. Now if it's a PRO label, who cares because PRO graded cards are all fairly suspect to begin with.

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

Now that is a concept! Having a card which pretends to have a real PRO label!

Really though, if a person can sell materials which others can use to defraud; what is next? Perhaps being able to sell materials which others can misuse to kill! Oh, thats right, they do that now.

I guess that maybe the seller is not responsible for a products end use. Well, except for somethings, like fissionable material or PSA labels.

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Posted By: Scott Forrest

I saved them because I am a pack-rat, but since I'm currently ebaying almost everything I own (you would be surprised how easy it is to get rid of stuff once you get started), the idea DID cross my mind...briefly.

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Posted By: dan mckee

Scott, I have you beat with extra labels and slabs for that matter. I am selling all of mine to the highest bidder. Right now I have Feldman and kimpossible running each other up. I was hoping Roy would buy them for his junk paper cut-outs.

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Posted By: davidcycleback

Ted, invisiable ink is visible under a black light.

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Posted By: Darren J. Duet

About as ethical as me selling signed prescritions of vicodin.

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Posted By: Judge Dred

Darren, I have a pain in my back, please email with the details on getting the vicodin.

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Posted By: Darren J Duet MD

An office visit would be in line-- but don't worry about insurance i'll take t205, t206, t207's as copay and E HOF'ers as payment in full. An x-ray will cost you a t202 HOFer and a MRI will cost you a cobb. After the initial office visit, of course, we'll need a follow up.

I see approximately 125 patients weekly, forget the dead presidents - I'd prefer to be reimbursed as above.

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Posted By: barry arnold

If you're intention is to do good but some unsavory character decides
to use those tabs for ill, then you're safe under Thomistic double
effect theory. The best of Thomism would make the stipulation that you
must know that the possible negative side effects (i.e. the unsavory)
are not nearly as possible as the ultimate good you are intending.

Given what we know about the Whitmore's of the universe, i'd say we'd best protect the integrity of our hobby as best we can. Collage sounds
like the highest good to me.


all the best

Barry Arnold