Claim of $80k+ theft at the National

[67airborne]

The two boxes, however, contained only $500 each in $1 bills, he said.

With the easy this guy seemed to pull off this scam he could of just used Monopoly money as collateral and saved his $1000.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by 67airborne

The two boxes, however, contained only $500 each in $1 bills, he said.

With the easy this guy seemed to pull off this scam he could of just used Monopoly money as collateral and saved his $1000.

I was thinking the same thing, or at least use what police call a "dummy roll" (a $100 wrapped around 99 singles).

This story is so unbelievably asinine.

[bigfanNY]

And before you call the FBI you would need some proof that the cards left the state of NJ. Nothing in the story says the cards left. Only that guy who allegedly was given permission to take the cards has left the state. And he was not the last person seen take possession of the cards. This is only episode one of a long soap opéra. Lol I am on my way to store to get more popcorn.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Theft is illegal in most states. Probably even Jersey.

Good one

[carolenny]

Once he let the guy walk away with the cards it was a done deal. No one can prove how much cash was in the bag. Exchange bag of cash for cards...guy walks away with cards...Guy hangs around for an hour chatting...He's going to say they had a deal and he paid for the cards.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by carolenny

Once he let the guy walk away with the cards it was a done deal. No one can prove how much cash was in the bag. Exchange bag of cash for cards...guy walks away with cards...Guy hangs around for an hour chatting...He's going to say they had a deal and he paid for the cards.

Right. Furthermore, nobody can say what the cards were worth.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by carolenny

Once he let the guy walk away with the cards it was a done deal. No one can prove how much cash was in the bag. Exchange bag of cash for cards...guy walks away with cards...Guy hangs around for an hour chatting...He's going to say they had a deal and he paid for the cards.

I thought the alleged thief texted Giddings he would see him in the morning in response to Giddings' text to the effect of WTF is going on. That doesn't sound like someone claiming the deal was done.

[esehombre]

[QUOTE=NYYFan63;2249391]So it’s not his job to count the money? Strange…

This is hilarious - so find the guy whose job it is to count the money and fire or sue him!

[rdwyer]

Be interesting if Dick Giddings was arrested for filing a false police report.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by cannonballsun

I checked out those other two threads that were mentioned in this thread.
Some pretty wild stuff, but some often amusing stuff.

The Net54 rabbit holes suck sometimes. It's like there's 5? minutes of my life gone but, damn, that was entertaining again!
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[Brian Van Horn]

Just curious. How many FBI agents were at the show? I know. They are supposed to blend in with the crowd. Also, how many arrests were made?

[Exhibitman]

This whole thing sounds like a pitch for an SNL skit: Two giant bags of dicks meet at a card show...

[parkplace33]

Any update on this story?

With all the cameras at the National, I would have thought something would have came out.

[chriskim]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

Any update on this story?

With all the cameras at the National, I would have thought something would have came out.

cameras at the National?? Really? I see many people take pics of cards but no cameras monitor the show floor.

[joshuanip]

Originally Posted by chadeast

FYI. Sorry if this was already posted, I didn't see any mention of it yet.

https://sportscollectorsdigest.com/n...-atlantic-city

Pretty elaborate hoax/theft for only $80K....

[Leon]

Originally Posted by joshuanip

Pretty elaborate hoax/theft for only $80K....

It might be worse if it's actually legitimate.


(as others have said in so many words)

Here, I don't know you that well but let me give you 85k in cards to give to someone else I have no idea about. And in about an hour I will start to get concerned = 85k lesson... bag or no bag
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[byrone]

Charges filed

https://sportscollectorsdigest.com/n...-atlantic-city

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by byrone

Charges filed

https://sportscollectorsdigest.com/n...-atlantic-city

Some timing?

[earlywynnfan]

Holy F---, a former student of mine

[G1911]

The charges will be quietly dropped as Gizmos story falls apart, or this will be the funniest card trial in hobby history.

[Johnny630]

You can file charges against a chicken sandwich! Has he, the alleged suspect been charged via summons or arrest warrant/indictment? According to the article, it looks like AC PD requested he returns to AC to answer questions and make a statement. Seems like the AC County Prosecutor declined to make this an extraditable offense.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Never underestimate the lure of a triple scoop waffle cone.

With sprinkles, of course.

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by G1911

The charges will be quietly dropped as Gizmos story falls apart, or this will be the funniest card trial in hobby history.

I fully expect the former, but I pray for the latter

[mrreality68]

This would the start of a good Soap Opera or Reality Show on the World of Baseball Collecting and all the dangerous pitfalls.

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

This would the start of a good Soap Opera or Reality Show on the World of Baseball Collecting and all the dangerous pitfalls.

If it was a reality show we would ban all Karkrapians, Chrisley's, Jersey Shore folks, Married at First Sight and all of the other pathetic clowns that appear on those and similar 'reality' shows. No, I don't watch any of them. Unfortunately, when I am on the treadmill late at night watching re-runs of Castle, FBI, NCIS or the such, I am bombarded with ads for all those and others.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by G1911

The charges will be quietly dropped as Gizmos story falls apart, or this will be the funniest card trial in hobby history.

I am so flying out for the trial. Getting there days in advance so I can get front row. Just saying in advance I will be charged with contempt of court for uncontrollable laughing during Gizmo's testimony.

[1952boyntoncollector]

I just read it over

Zero sense to know you got $1000 and then wait the next day? What the guy gave you $1000 by mistake instead of 100k?

Going to be hard to prove anything without receipts...dont know what cards taken dont know how much money taken. The dealer is the 'professional' in this and a greater duty on him. Would be interesting to see if 100k in cash was regularly reported on prior tax returns as well

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

I am so flying out for the trial. Getting there days in advance so I can get front row. Just saying in advance I will be charged with contempt of court for uncontrollable laughing during Gizmo's testimony.

I didn’t fly out for the national. But I will fly first class to attend this show. This has the potential to be a comedic goldmine

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by G1911

I didn’t fly out for the national. But I will fly first class to attend this show. This has the potential to be a comedic goldmine

Exactly. I will clear my calendar. Find the finest hotel. Business class all the way. Dinner is on me.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Exactly. I will clear my calendar. Find the finest hotel. Business class all the way. Dinner is on me.

Are full, official transcripts publicly available? It would be a blast to have it posted here.

Defense Attorney: Didn't you count the money?
Plaintiff: It wasn't my job.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

No way in hell this is going to trial...

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

No way in hell this is going to trial...

It won’t, but let us dream.

[T205 GB]

If this is the same Gizmo that sells trimmed cards then oh well. He deserves it for ripping so many people off.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

I wonder why Gizmo is on the National Committee?

Because you have to be a thief on a whole nother level to be on the board.

[Rich Klein]

https://sportscollectorsdigest.com/n...ource=hs_email

[Lorewalker]

Article was posted above a few days ago when it hit.

[EddieP]

Gizmo did an interview on youtube yesterday.

[Zach Wheat]

In the YouTube video the key takeaways I got were that he had done business with this person before and considered this person a "friend", had 2 witnesses for key parts of the exchange and would "...pursue this to the end", whatever that means.

[bobbyw8469]

New YouTube video interview with Rick Giddings.

[jfkheat]

Interview link

https://youtu.be/nc03BTv0vDk

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

Interview link

https://youtu.be/nc03BTv0vDk

Yeah that was awful. Gizmo comes off as every collectors' worst nightmare of the typical card dealer. It was hard for me to focus on the "story" because I was mesmerized by his persona. Might take a bit to purge that. Gotta run now and start trying.

[Eric72]

If I was the victim of an $80,000 crime, and the case/investigation was still ongoing, I would only be discussing the situation with legal counsel and law enforcement. Period.

I certainly wouldn't be providing an interview to some random content creator whose name I couldn't remember.

[G1911]

Does anyone know Porter? According to Gizmo the clown he’s active in the hobby, spends a lot, and has a criminal record. This 30 minute version of his story still doesn’t make any sense as having plausibly actually happened.

[Mark17]

I was just thinking, those boxes of cash could possibly (I don't know because I haven't seen them) said: $500.00 instead of $50000, if there was a very faint, almost invisible, decimal point there. So that could be a piece of the guy's defense.

Not a lawyer, but I'd think that would be important in knocking down the accusation of fraud. Unless The Giz has witnesses to him claiming it was $100,000 total in those boxes.

[Shoeless Moe]

I heard Gizmo got Jackie Chiles.

[babraham]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I heard Gizmo got Jackie Chiles.

"Your face is my case"

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Mark17

I was just thinking, those boxes of cash could possibly (I don't know because I haven't seen them) said: $500.00 instead of $50000, if there was a very faint, almost invisible, decimal point there. So that could be a piece of the guy's defense.

Not a lawyer, but I'd think that would be important in knocking down the accusation of fraud. Unless The Giz has witnesses to him claiming it was $100,000 total in those boxes.

if a witness to the 500 cash in ones..its pretty odd to give someone 500 1 dollar bills..

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by G1911

Does anyone know Porter? According to Gizmo the clown he’s active in the hobby, spends a lot, and has a criminal record. This 30 minute version of his story still doesn’t make any sense as having plausibly actually happened.

Don't know him now, but he was raised chasing and enjoying autographs with his father. The whole family is extremely sports-oriented and good, good people. I know he has a record due to an unfortunate incident that had nothing to do with collectibles or theft or in any way would relate to this situation.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

..its pretty odd to give someone 500 1 dollar bills..

Obviously you and I go to different night clubs.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Don't know him now, but he was raised chasing and enjoying autographs with his father. The whole family is extremely sports-oriented and good, good people. I know he has a record due to an unfortunate incident that had nothing to do with collectibles or theft or in any way would relate to this situation.

Gizmo’s story is so absurd that it can’t be true (it’s possible there was a theft but not like this). I hope, guilty of some sort of theft or innocent, this man knows his name is getting very publicly trashed. This whole situation just screams to hear from the other side.