1952 Topps Set Break by burlssports ~ Break Complete

[ZenPop]

Originally Posted by mighty bombjack

Leon has got it there, as this is all about framing. If you are thinking "I'm going to try and get the Mantle," than it seems like gambling. But if you are thinking "I'm buying a random 1952 Topps card," than it is not.

It is fairly easy to correlate this to buying a pack of baseball cards (or, if you will, a pack of cigarettes in 1910 that have a card included). If you are buying it hoping for that long-shot autograph (or, say, a Mathewson in the other scenario), than you are gambling (and would be better off buying the desired card/cards on the secondary market). I know that many, or perhaps most, people buying packs and boxes these days are hoping for that huge hit, but there are still plenty of us that buy a pack of Topps knowing that we are getting ten baseball cards. Might be worth more than my initial outlay, likely worth less, but I'm happy either way because I went into the transaction looking to buy ten baseball cards.

EXACTLY THIS. EVERY SINGLE TIME you buy a pack of baseball cards, it's like a Set Break... except that THIS is more explicit. When you buy a pack of cards you know the price... but there could get 2 of the same crappy cards. The set break sets the ground rules in stone, INCLUDING the EXACT cards that will be distributed. ...plus... it's freaking fun!

If you don't like to join set breaks, don't join them. If you do, have at it. I've joined a couple... got not much to speak of... but I don't have any complaints. I knew EXACTLY what the odds were AND that I WAS going to get a card. As random as a card in a sealed pack.

People complaining sound a bit too much like Grandpa Simpson and the "Old Man Yells At Cloud" headline in the paper.

[kevinlenane]

I wholeheartedly agree with the last post. If a set break is gambling then so is buying a pack of baseball cards. But the better question is - who cares? As others have alluded to - I have dreams about opening a pack of 52 Topps and these set breaks are literally like opening a one card pack. This is exactly why everyone who collects got info the hobby as a kid - the chase. All this legalese around whether it qualifies as gambling is really missing the point which is that IT IS FUN. It brought happiness to hundreds of people on this board which is truly priceless.

We are all fortunate enough to be able to spend spare money on old cardboard simply because we love it. Life is truly short - too short to not enjoy our true privilege of opening a giant awesome pack of old baseball cards so let's loosen our collars up and just smile!

[Beansballcardblog]

I've participated in Justin's set breaks and will again in the future. I support him on Facebook and Twitter through sharing and retweeting and will continue to do so.

If you don't like set breaks, move on. What do you hope to accomplish by posting your opinions here? I'm sure there are things you do, say or think in life that I don't agree with. Unless it affects me, I have no need to say a thing. My participation in a set break doesn't affect anyone but myself. Move along.

A break like this one is the only chance I will ever have to own a copy of one of the most iconic cards in our HOBBY (as a side note, hobbies are supposed to be enjoyable, not filled with drama). I take the same chance when I open a pack of cards.

Keep doing what you do, Justin and Leon. I've dealt with both of you either in person at shows (Leon) or through the joy of the interwebz (Justin) and you've both always done right by me! Thanks to both of you for doing what you do.

[ronniehatesjazz]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

Yes thankfully!

This just made my day lol. Nice pull!!

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by ronniehatesjazz

This just made my day lol. Nice pull!!

Haha thanks man. Yea I was like ok I'm pretty sure he didn't get my entrees. I kept seeing Stephen Anderson. I was like maybe that's me and he spelled it wrong? lol I was pumped when I saw it.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

How many opinions does Oldjudge get to post before we learn his name???

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

How many opinions does Oldjudge get to post before we learn his name???

OldJudge is Jay Mi11er. He's been around since well before I found Net54 14 or 15 years ago. He's also one of the authors of the best baseball card books ever written. I'm sure 99.9% of the posters here know who he is.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

well since I didn't know, and I'm far from ignorant I'm guessing your % is a bit off.

[baseballfan]

Is this sold out?

If so I am sorry I missed this. If not I want in.

I am a lawyer and I like idea of set break. All the cards are being sold with equal chance for everyone to win it. It's an equal chance to win several prizes with differing value. Everyone knows that going in.

Everyone is of age and assumes the risk that they may not win the mantle but a mid series common. I agree with the pack apology that is why I don't buy new cards. I am paying a mark up for chase cards I don't really want in the first place. Again my choice to do so. I also bought a lot of junk cards in the 90's that were over produced and no one told me until later, as I'm sure many minors did as well and the card companies never got in trouble at the time.

I don't put a lot of legal thought into collecting cards unless something is stolen or sold as unauthentic.

It's a hobby.

Just my .02

Fred

[swarmee]

It already happened, and my cards are on the way, including the 1 High Number I got. If the guy who got Jim Hearn wants to trade, send me a message.