Goodwin preview with bids already placed?

[D.P.Johnson]

How 'bout this novel idea:

If you don't like the way an auction is handling their business (i.e. shilling, opening and/or closing auctions early, too high of shipping/handling charges, too high buyer's premium, etc.), don't bid with them.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

How 'bout this novel idea:

If you don't like the way an auction is handling their business (i.e. shilling, opening and/or closing auctions early, too high of shipping/handling charges, too high buyer's premium, etc., don't bid with them.

you forget that we discussed fixing the mistake before it was a mistake....there werent complaints being made afterward....there was an easy fix means.

if a listing is inaccurate for example...you can just not bid on it..or you can try to help the AH correct it if there is time... not sure its a matter of just not bidding when you can correct it..

...i know its a novel idea to try to correct a mistake before a mistake happens..

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and they are a board advertiser, but don't insult my intelligence.

I put in my max bid 100% of the time the very minute the auction opens. If someone had the advantage of early bidding, which was not announced, and took my slot, how is that not an unfair advantage?

On how many lots in this auction were you outbid when you placed your maxxes this morning?

[ksabet]

Holy Overreaction Batman!!!

I can't believe this thread is up to 50+ posts of debate, over an honest error.

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

you forget that we discussed fixing the mistake before it was a mistake....there werent complaints being made afterward....there was an easy fix means.

if a listing is inaccurate for example...you can just not bid on it..or you can try to help the AH correct it if there is time... not sure its a matter of just not bidding when you can correct it..

...i know its a novel idea to try to correct a mistake before a mistake happens..

I didn't forget anything. That's why I put "etc" at the end of my examples.

Thus, once again, if you don't like the way an auction house is handling their business (i.e. not fixing a mistake before it was a mistake, not fixing a mistake when it's been brought to their attention, not accepting paypal, not shipping quickly enough, not packaging properly, not paying consigners quickly enough, etc.), don't do business with the auction house.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

On how many lots in this auction were you outbid when you placed your maxxes this morning?

Just two..but thats just me....i do win many auctions based on bids on my initial bids...

I do think that even if its proven that someone did lose out on an item because the auction started early you will still say that in the end its not a big deal.....if thats the case, you really do not need to keep trying to prove that there was no harm done based on no one losing out on a bid if in the end you dont care either way...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Just two..but thats just me....i do win many auctions based on bids on my initial bids...

I do think that even if its proven that someone did lose out on an item because the auction started early you will still say that in the end its not a big deal.....if thats the case, you really do not need to keep trying to prove that there was no harm done based on no one losing out on a bid if in the end you dont care either way...

Maybe Ted outbid you. And since he is there the minute the auction opens, he says, he would have anyhow.

[begsu1013]

what items are you bidding on, jake?

muhaha.

xoXOxo

[glchen]

This is so dumb. This *might* only make a little bit of difference if you can guarantee that you will always be the first bidder in an auction when you can place your max bid and take the max "slot" that you want. However, many auctions, you have no idea what time that they will open. They may say that they will open on February 22nd, but you have no idea what time on Feb 22nd. They might open at 9am EST, 9am CST, maybe a few minutes early, maybe a few minutes late, then someone might beat you to the punch in placing their bids first. Heck, some auctions even open bidding before their stated date on purpose. Goldin Auctions used to always open on Sunday, a day before their stated Monday opening to Game Used Universe members, and offer prizes if you put in the X number bid. No one ever complained. The fact that this thread is still going on astonishes me.

[Snapolit1]

Maybe I'm missing something . . do you get some kind of prize when your'e the first bidder in an auction?

(Other than, of course, being outbid fairly quickly.)

[Jobu]

As far as I know the only prize is that, in the case of a tie, the first person to bid that amount is the winner.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Jobu

As far as I know the only prize is that, in the case of a tie, the first person to bid that amount is the winner.

Someone has their thinking cap on! This would be the only reason.


I guess most collectors, at least in this thread, get caught up with emotion, and a bidding strategy has never entered their minds.


Kudos, as ignorance truly is bliss!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by glchen

This is so dumb. This *might* only make a little bit of difference if you can guarantee that you will always be the first bidder in an auction when you can place your max bid and take the max "slot" that you want. However, many auctions, you have no idea what time that they will open. They may say that they will open on February 22nd, but you have no idea what time on Feb 22nd. They might open at 9am EST, 9am CST, maybe a few minutes early, maybe a few minutes late, then someone might beat you to the punch in placing their bids first. Heck, some auctions even open bidding before their stated date on purpose. Goldin Auctions used to always open on Sunday, a day before their stated Monday opening to Game Used Universe members, and offer prizes if you put in the X number bid. No one ever complained. The fact that this thread is still going on astonishes me.

+ many

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Someone has their thinking cap on! This would be the only reason.


I guess most collectors, at least in this thread, get caught up with emotion, and a bidding strategy has never entered their minds.

Kudos, as ignorance truly is bliss!

Thinking caps on Net54.

Now that's a novel concept.

Leon, we have a new product to market.

[Republicaninmass]

Someone beat you to it

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by ksabet

Holy Overreaction Batman!!!

I can't believe this thread is up to 50+ posts of debate, over an honest error.

+ infinity!

[Snapolit1]

If there is one other person champing at the bit to place a bid at the earliest possible opportunity, I reckon the idea that there are only 2 bidders in the universe who will both bid the auction minimum, and not a penny more, to be so unlikely as to defy any real possibility, but I guess we can all make up situations. (Maybe one of the bidders saw there was a bid already placed and then walked outside pissed off and got hit with a meteor and didn't get to bid at all, etc.)

[buymycards]

I am outraged that someone else was able to get their shill bids in before I could get my shill bids in.

Rick

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If there is one other person champing at the bit to place a bid at the earliest possible opportunity, I reckon the idea that there are only 2 bidders in the universe who will both bid the auction minimum, and not a penny more, to be so unlikely as to defy any real possibility, but I guess we can all make up situations. (Maybe one of the bidders saw there was a bid already placed and then walked outside pissed off and got hit with a meteor and didn't get to bid at all, etc.)

You don't understand Republicaninmass' bidding strategy....at all.

[brianp-beme]

As I have frequently stated, the best advertising is always an early mistake.

I think we all know about the Goodwin auction now.

Brian

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

As I have frequently stated, the best advertising is always an early mistake.

I think we all know about the Goodwin auction now.

Brian

Brian, you posts always make me laugh, and this is no exception.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Extremely unprofessional to start an auction before the stated auction time...auction houses go to great lengths to explain when an auction ends..and makes warnings that an auction may end sooner than a certain time..

however i guess auctions can start whenever they want...

If you guys want to pander back and forth about if it helps to bid early at an auction have at it. My belief based on previous experience is that the highest bid wins, but I've been incorrect before. The quoted statement above, however, is asinine in the most absolute form, and that's probably the most correct statement I've ever provided on this board. Bob is a gigantic asset to the hobby and his company allows many great people to make a living doing what they love. No Bob, no Sterling. No Bob, no Love of the Game. I could go on and on. Secondly, mistakes happen - billions of then everyday - the vast majority of them innocent and meaningless much like this one. He quickly admitted fault publicly and fixed the issue. Finally, after the above quoted nonsense you then continued to slam him for not removing the early bids. Spoiler alert: That isn't Bob's call. Practice your reading comprehension skills by reading the entirety of his first apology from start to finish and eventually you might figure out why.

I decided a short time ago I would quit trolling your sometimes incoherent babble, but I'm pulling down the white flag on this one. Here is a free one, think before you speak, especially if you are going to bash someone important to the hobby's growth whom you know nothing about. You have a passion for the hobby, which is great, but you ramble on incessantly in a form that appears to be speaking just the sake for speaking. That I could handle of it weren't for the numerous digs and pokes sprinkled in towards members who deserve better. I'm sure we'll cross paths again, but until then happy collecting.

Steven Finley

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Brian, you posts always make me laugh, and this is no exception.

Thanks Daryl. I really try to do my best, but admittedly it is a low paying job.

Brian

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

If you guys want to pander back and forth about if it helps to bid early at an auction have at it. My belief based on previous experience is that the highest bid wins, but I've been incorrect before. The quoted statement above, however, is asinine in the most absolute form, and that's probably the most correct statement I've ever provided on this board. Bob is a gigantic asset to the hobby and his company allows many great people to make a living doing what they love. No Bob, no Sterling. No Bob, no Love of the Game. I could go on and on. Secondly, mistakes happen - billions of then everyday - the vast majority of them innocent and meaningless much like this one. He quickly admitted fault publicly and fixed the issue. Finally, after the above quoted nonsense you then continued to slam him for not removing the early bids. Spoiler alert: That isn't Bob's call. Practice your reading comprehension skills by reading the entirety of his first apology from start to finish and eventually you might figure out why.

I decided a short time ago I would quit trolling your sometimes incoherent babble, but I'm pulling down the white flag on this one. Here is a free one, think before you speak, especially if you are going to bash someone important to the hobby's growth whom you know nothing about. You have a passion for the hobby, which is great, but you ramble on incessantly in a form that appears to be speaking just the sake for speaking. That I could handle of it weren't for the numerous digs and pokes sprinkled in towards members who deserve better. I'm sure we'll cross paths again, but until then happy collecting.

Steven Finley