What modern cards are due to rise ?!

[Rookiemonster]

Hey , very new to this site . I also don't see much in the modern section I collect both vintage and modern . So in your opinions what has to go up ? I guess I'll go first . Football or baseball

1989 fleer glossy Griffey in mint or better .

1989 bowman Tiffany Griffey .

1984 topps football .

Rare 90s inserts

[1952boyntoncollector]

nothing really...things are collectible when everyone used to have it but now they no longer...

I think Atari and early Nintendo cartridges would be the thing to have from the 80s..modern era...not 1984 topps or whatever..

[ls7plus]

Check out the increase in value of the '85 Topps McGwire in PSA 10 over the last 10 months or so--from the $500 range to well over $600, new asking prices above $700, and PWCC selling one for $999!. It wasn't very many years ago that this card in this grade was at $300 or less. The most iconic baseball figure over the last 20+ years is regaining his luster--younger collectors don't really care about the PED's issue (and baseball has obviously made a dedicated effort to downplay the issue, including the steroid guys in the lists of lifetime leaders), but they do cherish his Bunyonesque qualities. This was a $5,000 card in 1998, and it might get there again.

I also think HOF'ers from the '91 Desert Shield set in high grade will do just fine.

PS: Bonds is going up also--his gem mint 1986 Topps Traded Tiffany rookie in gem mint 10 was once $2,000, went down to $200, and recent sales have been back up to about $700.

Happy collecting,

Larry

[bnorth]

Since your suggestions are junk era I would think most of the Tiffany type SP sets. Not much else because there was just so much of it printed. Still by far my most favorite era of cards because I watched most of those guys play in person and they bring back great memories like Williams, Mantle, Mays and Aaron does for the older generation.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I never trusted those Tiffany production numbers. Back in the day when McGwire was hot it seemed there was an endless number of them.

[pokerplyr80]

I agree with most mentioned, especially the 91 desert shield. Also 93 finest refractors and 96 select certified. I think cards of the steroid guys will come back. Mcgwire is already on his way but I think Clemens and Bonds are good ones to buy now. 84 Fleer update Puckett and 89 Upper Deck Griffey in PSA 10 have room to go up in my opinion. I think that griffey in BGS 10 will be a 4-5k card in a few years and his PSA 10 will be selling for $500 before that.

[Rookiemonster]

I agree that Nintendo games will increase in value . But I never owned and probably never will own a 1952 topps mantle and it continues to increase in value . As does many other things . Anyway I have also noticed the PeD e players increase a bit .

[1952boyntoncollector]

PSA 10s in general seem to be the consensus...there are people on net54 who thinks the flip grades in the years to come wont matter much which would impact on those suggestions of cards that could amount to something...

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

PSA 10s in general seem to be the consensus...there are people on net54 who thinks the flip grades in the years to come wont matter much which would impact on those suggestions of cards that could amount to something...

Count me as one of those people on junk era 10's. There is just so much unopened product and so many collections with ungraded cards that I personally think 10's from that era will be very common and easy to get in the future. Not 100% sure UD isn't still printing Griffey rookies.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Count me as one of those people on junk era 10's. There is just so much unopened product and so many collections with ungraded cards that I personally think 10's from that era will be very common and easy to get in the future. Not 100% sure UD isn't still printing Griffey rookies.

I agree with you on those 10s..heck there are low end and high end 10s..whatever that means...

for now though the psa 10 game seems to be working well...some 1972 topps psa 10 commons sold for a ton last few days

[Rookiemonster]

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[Rookiemonster]

Any rare 10 like the 1989 fleer glossy was not only print in low numbers and is very hard to find in good condition . Some of those card are definitely in a PSA bubble that is going to pop . But then who's to say that there is not a warehouse filled with 1952 topps and it not in the harbor

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

Any rare 10 like the 1989 fleer glossy was not only print in low numbers and is very hard to find in good condition . Some of those card are definitely in a PSA bubble that is going to pop . But then who's to say that there is not a warehouse filled with 1952 topps and it not in the harbor

cards have to be rare..AND wanted...rare doesn't really mean much ..if not enough demand...there could be a hoard of t206 honus wagners too...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

cards have to be rare..AND wanted...rare doesn't really mean much ..if not enough demand...there could be a hoard of t206 honus wagners too...

Cole B's great grandfather hoarded those I hear.

[PolarBear]

I'll never end up collecting them, but I think the 1991 Desert Shield set is one of the best modern sets. I hope they hold their value over time.

A lot of Topps Heritage will probably hold up over time also.

[ALR-bishop]

The hardest and most expensive Topps sets for me to assemble from the 80s were the 82 Blackless, 84 Encased, 85 Minis ( especially in blank back), 88 Cloth and 89 Heads Up. The 91 Desert Shield was not too bad, but complicated due to the many counterfeits

[WillBBC]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

I'll never end up collecting them, but I think the 1991 Desert Shield set is one of the best modern sets. I hope they hold their value over time.

A lot of Topps Heritage will probably hold up over time also.

Agreed on both counts. Topps has nailed it with Heritage year in and year out. Beautiful cards, on-card autographs, and print runs that are attainable but not ridiculous.

I put together the full swath of Anthony Rendon cards from last year and enjoyed the search so much that I wound up opening a few boxes just for fun (I hardly ever buy boxes of anything these days)...wound up building the set, SPs and all. It was an absolute blast.

The the parallels are beautiful cards as well. I know this board isn't a huge fan of shiny stuff but the Black Refractors simply pop.

I even built the High Number series with all the SPs and action variations and a bunch of the color swaps. I can't be the only one--check out the prices for some of the random parallels on eBay--people really like putting these sets together.

I know I'm not breaking new ground here but yeah, I think Heritage has as good a shot as any as holding/gaining value over the years. This year's High Numbers series is chock full of great rookies that could really boom in the coming years.

[PolarBear]

Not kidding at all - I can't wait to see the 2020 Heritage set based on the 1971 black border set.

Too bad they don't issue the exact same number of cards in the heritage sets.

[Rookiemonster]

Heritage is fun but there a lot of sp and variations in other product as well . I've picked up a few of the roid error guys autos . I recently got a scoreboard 1987 topps Barry bonds auto numbered shipped for 34 dollars . This card has to potential

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I never trusted those Tiffany production numbers. Back in the day when McGwire was hot it seemed there was an endless number of them.

On the Tiffany sets I have in my collection, the set's serial number is stamped on each box's bottom....in each case the set number is below the "stated" production number. I would have to believe that if a collector had a set with a stamped number higher than the stated/estimated production that this fact would have been revealed by now, but I have not heard of such a claim.

If more sets were produced than the estimated production amounts, than another theory could be that Topps produced multiple sets with the same serial number....but again I have not seen any collectors or dealers bring this fact forward either.

While it may have seemed like there were an endless number of McGwire RCs out there, there are only 1258 that are on record with PSA which is just over 25% of the alleged production amounts. This pct is probably a realistic number for such a card.

Surprisingly, these Tiffany cards do not have greater demand as their supply is exceedingly low as compared to their regular issue counterparts. Recent auction sales of sealed 85 TT sets were in the $700-900 range.

[ALR-bishop]

I have a run of these (84-91 ?) and the related Traded sets. I have never seen the cards themselves since they are still in the factory boxes. I also ended up buying some Tiffany "like"sets ( forget what they were called) from, I think 2000-2002

Fritsch used to offer some of the Tiffany sets in their catalog and web site

[drcy]

There were also Score Glossy sets, which were their equivalent to Topps Tiffany. Think they came in tins instead of cardboard boxes. I had a couple from 1988, but they were a bit of a pain because of the shipping weight.