NEW DISCOVERY: 1990 Topps Hills Hit Men Jose Canseco #7 w/ Dave Parker #21 Back –

[Historic Error Find]

1990 Topps Hills Hit Men Canseco #7 / Dave Parker #21 Wrong-Back – First Known Example in the entire world After 35 years of silence in every database (TCDB, PSA pop, Beckett, eBay sold, error catalogs), I’m thrilled to share the first documented wrong-back error Jose Canseco from the 1990 Topps Hills Hit Men boxed set.

Card Details: Front: Jose Canseco #7 (Oakland A’s, .277 BA, 37 HR, .540 SLG – #1 slugging rank)

Back: Dave Parker #21 (Oakland A’s, .243 BA, 20 HR, .461 SLG – full bio, stats, photo)

Design: 100% authentic Hills Hit Men orange back, pink text, baseball graphic, ©1990 Topps

Print Flaw: Slight back misregistration (text off-center vs. front) – textbook press-sheet misalignment
Condition: Raw, corners nice, nice centering

Proof of Uniqueness:TCDB: 0 error/variation entries for entire 33-card set
PSA/BGS pop reports: 0 graded Hills Hit Men errors
eBay sold, Heritage, Goldin: No trace of this combo
Net54/Blowout/Reddit archives: Zero mentions since 1990

High-Res pictures (front, back, edges, close-ups) will post soon having sizing imaging problem they upload way to huge:
This is a true 1/1 discovery from a low-print-run regional promo (Hills Department Stores only). I will be Submitting to PSA under “Printing Error” Soon.

I will be Selling post-slab (Heritage/Goldin or other consignment likely

Thoughts? Seen anything like this? Let’s get the error community buzzing! Thanks,
CJ / Historic Error Find

[swarmee]

Good luck. PSA doesn't recognize wrong backs-

[Historic Error Find]

I have heard that about psa but then I have heard some had got recognized. A Frank Thomas NNOF is simply a card missing some ink the Herrera card too, neither of these were corrected, but a card with a different players name and stat on the back isn't graded as a ""wrongback".

The way I see it a wrongback card is more of an error card than one with missing ink that was simply mechanical, but they both should qualify as a error. time will tell though thanks for the comment and wishing of luck.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Historic Error Find

I have heard that about psa but then I have heard some had got recognized. A Frank Thomas NNOF is simply a card missing some ink the Herrera card too, neither of these were corrected, but a card with a different players name and stat on the back isn't graded as a ""wrongback".

The way I see it a wrongback card is more of an error card than one with missing ink that was simply mechanical, but they both should qualify as a error. time will tell though thanks for the comment and wishing of luck.

When they still slabbed wrong backs I got my only known Wade Boggs/Roger Clemens wrong back pair graded by SGC.

[sthoemke]

I found a wrongback once, but it turned out to be two cards stuck together.

[Historic Error Find]

thanks for the reply and info about getting yours graded it may come in handy and also the well wishes. While most cards don't command alot of money. After having my error card reviewed I was told it the only known one in the world a true 1/1 discovery and it could start at 20k or more at auction if it grades 8 or higher. I was told to insure it for a minimum of 5k when I send it to get graded. Psa does grade wrongs backs here is a list from their data base of wrong backs they graded
PSA OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZES WRONG-BACK ERRORS Set
Error
PSA Label
Pop

12 cards 1957 Topps
#138 Minoso / #20 Colavito back
“WRONG BACK”


8 cards1975 Topps
#223 Yount / #228 Brett back
“PRINTING ERROR – WRONG BACK”


45 cards 1989 Fleer
#616 Ripken / #17 Murray back
“WRONG BACK”


3 cards 1990 Topps
Kmart Canseco / Gwynn back
“PRINTING ERROR”

Thank for your reply error cards a such fun

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Historic Error Find

thanks for the reply and info about getting yours graded it may come in handy and also the well wishes. While most cards don't command alot of money. After having my error card reviewed I was told it the only known one in the world a true 1/1 discovery and it could start at 20k or more at auction if it grades 8 or higher. I was told to insure it for a minimum of 5k when I send it to get graded. Psa does grade wrongs backs here is a list from their data base of wrong backs they graded
PSA OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZES WRONG-BACK ERRORS Set
Error
PSA Label
Pop

12 cards 1957 Topps
#138 Minoso / #20 Colavito back
“WRONG BACK”


8 cards1975 Topps
#223 Yount / #228 Brett back
“PRINTING ERROR – WRONG BACK”


45 cards 1989 Fleer
#616 Ripken / #17 Murray back
“WRONG BACK”


3 cards 1990 Topps
Kmart Canseco / Gwynn back
“PRINTING ERROR”

Thank for your reply error cards a such fun

Those and many other wrong backs are in PSAs database because they did grade them for a while. Unless they recently changed their policy they no longer grade them.

Also if your card is off center front and back with soft corners it isn't going to grade an 8. More like a 5 or 6 at best.

I would get more opinions because I have been buying, selling, and trading wrong backs since the 80s and there is zero chance that is a 20K card.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Historic Error Find

1990 Hills Hit Men Canseco #7 / Dave Parker #21 Wrong-Back – First Known Example After 35 years of silence in every database (TCDB, PSA pop, Beckett, eBay sold, error catalogs), I’m thrilled to share the first documented wrong-back error Jose Canseco from the 1990 Topps Hills Hit Men boxed set.

Card Details: Front: Jose Canseco #7 (Oakland A’s, .277 BA, 37 HR, .540 SLG – #1 slugging rank)

Back: Dave Parker #21 (Oakland A’s, .243 BA, 20 HR, .461 SLG – full bio, stats, photo)

Design: 100% authentic Hills Hit Men orange back, pink text, baseball graphic, ©1990 Topps

Print Flaw: Slight back misregistration (text off-center vs. front) – textbook press-sheet misalignment
Condition: Raw, corners soft, centering ~70/30 – likely PSA 8

Proof of Uniqueness:TCDB: 0 error/variation entries for entire 33-card set
PSA/BGS pop reports: 0 graded Hills Hit Men errors
eBay sold, Heritage, Goldin: No trace of this combo
Net54/Blowout/Reddit archives: Zero mentions since 1990

High-Res pictures (front, back, edges, close-ups) will post soon having sizing imaging problem they upload way to huge:
This is a true 1/1 discovery from a low-print-run regional promo (Hills Department Stores only). I will be Submitting to PSA under “Printing Error” Soon.

I will be Selling post-slab (Heritage/Goldin or other consignment likely

Thoughts? Seen anything like this? Let’s get the error community buzzing! Thanks,
CJ / Historic Error Find

Cool find. Sadly I have found with wrong backs even the rare ones don't sell for much more than the common ones. I wish you the best of luck. As someone with hundreds of only known wrong back pairs I don't see it selling for enough for either of those AHs to want it.

[Hxcmilkshake]

I just imagine OP digging thru 5000ct boxes of 1990 Topps looking for such treasures

Everyone needs a hobby I guess...

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[Historic Error Find]

Thanks for the reply the craziest story of how I got the card was I was a little kid who went to the store to buy a bike I wanted but when I got to store the bike was out of stock so I bought a box of cards instead on my way out of the store which happen to contain this ultra rare card where it sat in my box for the past 35 years un touched. I am so glad that bike was out of stock ��

[ezez420]

Do you mind stating what auction house stated such to you? Because truthfully if anyone told you such should get fired on the spot for giving you info like that. They also could have been joking with you.

You have 8 total post of which most are on this subject trying to come on a vintage card group with gibberish. The Hills and Kmart sets are worth $10 each.

Seriously save yourself the money and embarrassment. But if you do choose to mail out to the auction can you please post the insured receipt to get a good laugh.


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[Historic Error Find]

Sorry you disagree with information and the data on the error card. the data I posted is the actual data related to this card that was researched by two different independent researchers who investigated the card and that was their findings including raw card assessment. If you have information that says otherwise or any information I posted is wrong or incorrect about the 1/1 error card feel free to post it

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Historic Error Find

Sorry you disagree with information and the data on the error card. the data I posted is the actual data related to this card that was researched by two different independent researchers who investigated the card and that was their findings including raw card assessment. If you have information that says otherwise or any information I posted is wrong or incorrect about the 1/1 error card feel free to post it

Actual data, from independent researchers with no vested interest. Don’t take a lowball from these jealous net54 guys, you could end up with $20K+

[Historic Error Find]

Thank for sticking up for me you're a cool guy �� it's so crazy people literally attack you for posting data lol

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by G1911

Actual data, from independent researchers with no vested interest. Don’t take a lowball from these jealous net54 guys, you could end up with $20K+

This may bring you an hour or so of bad Karma Greg.

[Eric72]

I doubt the veracity of any claim that this card is worth five figures. There is too much data to the contrary. There are countless cards quite similar to the one shown in this thread. None of these cards have legitimately changed hands for thousands of dollars.

Is this exact card unique? Possibly. Don’t conflate scarcity and value, though. If someone told you this card was valuable, it’s likely they were joking. If they also suggested you come here with the card, then they almost certainly set you up to be ridiculed.

As the immortal Lou Brown once said, “I think someone's been having some fun with you.”

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by Historic Error Find

Sorry you disagree with information and the data on the error card. the data I posted is the actual data related to this card that was researched by two different independent researchers who investigated the card and that was their findings including raw card assessment. If you have information that says otherwise or any information I posted is wrong or incorrect about the 1/1 error card feel free to post it

I know you are going to immediately reject this but that statement means absolutely nothing without repeat sales history.

I'd highly recommend that you list the card BIN at whatever price and post the offers after a month+ OR start at $0.99 bid and let it run if you're feeling particularly certain of the assessment. If there is any chance at this card being as desired and important as they claimed, it will be proven through these means.

My expert opinion: this is a wrong back, plain and simple, and while neat, not something that will garner massive interest as it is a niche misprint in a niche set and not going to attract the money that comes from master set collectors, just Canseco collectors.

[Lucas00]

Can we have links to the sales you just listed?

[ezez420]

Let's hear who the independent researchers are because they should stop being involved with cards. They are playing games with you and made you come on here looking foolish.


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[DaClyde]

Is this just the $1M 1986 Donruss Canseco guy again?

In any case, none of the collecting sites includes wrong backs, blank backs/fronts, miscuts or generic foil issues in their catalogs. They pretty much all mention them in their FAQ that they are printing mistakes and generally in the same category as scrap though some collectors will chase them. People will collect anything, but even cataloging nerds have limits.

Am I interested as a Dave Henderson collector? Yes. Am I the market for this card at that price? No.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by DaClyde

Is this just the $1M 1986 Donruss Canseco guy again?

In any case, none of the collecting sites includes wrong backs, blank backs/fronts, miscuts or generic foil issues in their catalogs. They pretty much all mention them in their FAQ that they are printing mistakes and generally in the same category as scrap though some collectors will chase them. People will collect anything, but even cataloging nerds have limits.

Am I interested as a Dave Henderson collector? Yes. Am I the market for this card at that price? No.

I have a 1990 Score only known Dave Henderson/Greg Swindell wrong back pair. I would sell for considerably less than $20K.

[mouschi]

Good morning, peeps! Someone told me to check out this link, so I thought I'd give my .02.

Admittedly, it is difficult to tell value of such items as this, so I'll try to give a little guidance to help...

A lot of times, you can find contextual clues by searching parallel sold listings. I don't see any of this listed either, but a 1990 Topps Hills Don Mattingly with a Wade Boggs back did actually sell back in March.

A good idea may be to search both ebay sold and ebay active listings for the term "wrong back." That'll help you see both real sales data, and what others are hoping to get for theirs. Sorting by highest price can help you determine the ceiling. Keep in mind that active listings have a tendency to potentially be astronomically high - either as a joke, high hopes of "striking it rich" or being gravely misinformed.

As an example: people have been trying to get insane money for 1989 Topps Canseco cards, stating they are errors in one way or another (they are not.) You'll see some for thousands of dollars, and some even may show up in the sold listings - this is not accurate sales data. You can literally find the exact same cards for sale for under a buck. Once you see that, you know they are bunk.

Anyway, I hope the data you derive from my suggestions above will help set realistic expectations in terms of value. Best of luck to you!

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by mouschi

A lot of times, you can find contextual clues by searching parallel sold listings. I don't see any of this listed either, but a 1990 Topps Hills Don Mattingly with a Wade Boggs back did actually sell back in March.

For the OPs reference, this raw Mattingly/Boggs card sold for $37.26 (free s/h).

Not sure if having this Canseco card graded by PSA would 500x the value of this card as the OP expects.