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Old 05-05-2025, 10:39 AM
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Sorry if this has already been widely covered, but are there cards or even sets that we know/think existed but no longer exist or are unknown to the hobby? Would love to know more. I enjoy reading about lost media and it’s similar
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Old 05-05-2025, 10:44 AM
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Hey Edward --- great to see you post and add this topic to the list of threads. I too am deeply and primarily (solely, really) interested in history, culture, and depth of meaning as it applies to cards and the sport as a whole.

As a media historian and cultural archivist, questions like this intrigue me too. I'm sure your post will bring our fellow archivists and seekers out of the fold to engage you as well.

My best regards; excited to see where this leads,
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Old 05-05-2025, 10:59 AM
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Not so much lost, I'd say more so cards are known but just have never been discovered.
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Old 05-05-2025, 11:13 AM
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One set that might interest you is Fleer's Whiz Bang "cards". One box of Whiz Bang's was discovered in the depths of an old store. The find was auctioned in 2009 and later auctioned off in separate lots by Lew Lipset. It is known that there are at least 3 baseball players (Grove, Hartnett and Goslin) along with 13 Hollywood figures. The Whiz Bang flyers came in 3 colors...

Curious mix of only 3 ball players. Were there others? We may never know...
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A set I've learned about semi recently is the 1950 Dominican Republic Album cards. They were a set released to paste in an album. There are a ton of Major leaguers in the set, but as I know only one or 2 finds have ever been known of them, and most of the cards are unique. So while the checklists have names like Rizzuto, Schoendienst, Berra, Jackie, Hodges etc. The checklist is equally as non complete, missing players like Williams, DiMaggio, Doby etc.

There are even retired players in the set known. Hack Wilson, Carl Hubbell. This can open another can of worms for pretty much any hof name.


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anybody ever seen one or have a scan of one? set list has it listed
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I'm not aware of a complete checklist for the early 1930's Double Aguila sets. I've come across a couple examples not listed on any active checklist or with any graded examples. There are probably a handful of cards from each of the sets (I don't even think there is a consensus of the number of sets released) that are completely lost to time.

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I'm not aware of a complete checklist for the early 1930's Double Aguila sets. I've come across a couple examples not listed on any active checklist or with any graded examples. There are probably a handful of cards from each of the sets (I don't even think there is a consensus of the number of sets released) that are completely lost to time.

wow.. this is a beautiful card. stunning back too!
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Not a set, but there is always questions why Joe Jackson is not in the T206 set (when he is in E90-1) and why there is no Cracker Jack of Babe Ruth.

Also, I always wonder why T204 does not includes so major HOFers, such as Cobb, Wagner, Young, Mathewson, Lajoie, etc... I doubt its the "tobacco thing" because T204 is one of the few tobacco issues to contain a Plank.
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It will always be a shame that Gehrig didn't get a 1939 Play Ball card. What a beautiful card it was sure to be.
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