NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-13-2025, 05:09 PM
BRoberts BRoberts is offline
Bill Roberts
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 477
Default Heritage Auctions using AI for lot descriptions?

Last night while browsing Heritage Auctions' Sunday night auction, I saw a signed 1963 Topps card of Chicago Cubs infielder and 1962 Rookie of the Year Ken Hubbs. It caught my eye because, as many of you know, Hubbs died in a plane crash in February 1964. I can't imagine there are many autographed cards of him. Anyway, here's the Heritage description:

Signed 1963 Topps Ken Hubbs #15. Ken Hubbs was a professional baseball player who played as a second baseman for the Chicago Cubs in Major League Baseball (MLB). Hubbs was known for his exceptional defensive skills and athleticism. He won the National League Rookie of the Year Award in 1962, becoming the first rookie to win a Gold Glove Award. During that season, he set a record for the most consecutive errorless games by a second baseman, showcasing his reliability and skill on the field. Offered is a signed 2nd year card of the Cubs great. Pre-certified by PSA/DNA.

The beginning of the description reads like a Wikipedia entry, certainly not something an auction house would write. And what auction house writer wouldn't mention Hubbs' death at age 22 and the rarity of the signed card? I shared the write-up with a hobby friend, and his immediate reaction was "That reads like something generated by AI."

I have no issue with any auction house -- or business, for that matter -- using AI. And I should say in general -- not always -- I think Heritage does things the right way. Lord knows they are successful. But, gee, couldn't an employee at least read the description before making it live? It's not like AI has been around for decades and you always know what you're going to get.

Doesn't an auction house owe a little more effort to consignors to produce complete descriptions about the items they're selling?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-13-2025, 05:10 PM
raulus raulus is offline
Nicol0 Pin.oli
 
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 2,656
Default

It definitely reads like the AI-generated descriptions that eBay's AI generates.

Mostly a bunch of fluff and obvious statements.
__________________
Trying to wrap up my master mays set, with just a few left:

1968 American Oil left side
1971 Bazooka numbered complete panel
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-13-2025, 06:01 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is offline
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 33,549
Default

Better than some of the AH (not necessarily Heritage) and ebay hype we see.

Best we've ever handled.
Amazing eye appeal.
Presents far better than the technical grade.
Blazing colors.
Near perfect centering (like we can't see that).
Just a few wrinkles that do not detract from the overall appearance.
Stunning.
Bold signature.
__________________
Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions.

My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at
https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-13-2025, 06:10 PM
BRoberts BRoberts is offline
Bill Roberts
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 477
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
Better than some of the AH (not necessarily Heritage) and ebay hype we see.

Best we've ever handled.
Amazing eye appeal.
Presents far better than the technical grade.
Blazing colors.
Near perfect centering (like we can't see that).
Just a few wrinkles that do not detract from the overall appearance.
Stunning.
Bold signature.
Hey, Pete disagrees. Must be a day ending in “y.”
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-13-2025, 06:24 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is offline
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 33,549
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRoberts View Post
Hey, Pete disagrees. Must be a day ending in “y.”
What would Joe T. do?
__________________
Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions.

My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at
https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-13-2025, 06:32 PM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is offline
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 35,649
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRoberts View Post
Hey, Pete disagrees. Must be a day ending in “y.”
Please cut the crap.
.
__________________
Leon Luckey
www.luckeycards.com
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-13-2025, 06:38 PM
Snapolit1's Avatar
Snapolit1 Snapolit1 is offline
Ste.ve Na.polit.ano
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 6,286
Default

Clearly AI. He was a professional baseball player …. No auction house would write something so obvious. Same for “played as a second baseman…”. No one would write that.

Last edited by Snapolit1; 01-13-2025 at 06:41 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-17-2025, 10:33 AM
Fuddjcal Fuddjcal is offline
Chuck Tapia
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2,199
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
Better than some of the AH (not necessarily Heritage) and ebay hype we see.

Best we've ever handled.
Amazing eye appeal.
Presents far better than the technical grade.
Blazing colors.
Near perfect centering (like we can't see that).
Just a few wrinkles that do not detract from the overall appearance.
Stunning.
Bold signature.
you forgot my all time favorites that add 1K to every card...

"Fresh to the Hobby"
'Newly Discovered"
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-17-2025, 10:45 AM
BigfootIsReal BigfootIsReal is offline
R0ck Cund.iff
 
Join Date: May 2024
Posts: 185
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
Better than some of the AH (not necessarily Heritage) and ebay hype we see.

Best we've ever handled.
Amazing eye appeal.
Presents far better than the technical grade.
Blazing colors.
Near perfect centering (like we can't see that).
Just a few wrinkles that do not detract from the overall appearance.
Stunning.
Bold signature.
I always like....."looks nicer" "looks under graded"
They never say..."looks over graded"
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-17-2025, 01:02 PM
Aquarian Sports Cards Aquarian Sports Cards is offline
Scott Russell
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,967
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal View Post
I always like....."looks nicer" "looks under graded"
They never say..."looks over graded"
https://thecollectorconnection.com/b...e?itemid=23449

https://thecollectorconnection.com/b...e?itemid=18049

https://thecollectorconnection.com/b...e?itemid=17390

https://thecollectorconnection.com/b...e?itemid=20792

Just a sample
__________________
Check out https://www.thecollectorconnection.com Always looking for consignments 717.327.8915 We sell your less expensive pre-war cards individually instead of in bulk lots to make YOU the most money possible!

and Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecollectorconnectionauctions
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-17-2025, 01:05 PM
BigfootIsReal BigfootIsReal is offline
R0ck Cund.iff
 
Join Date: May 2024
Posts: 185
Default

Was specifically talking about EBay
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-14-2025, 10:05 AM
Balticfox's Avatar
Balticfox Balticfox is offline
V@idotas J0nynas
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,173
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRoberts View Post
Doesn't an auction house owe a little more effort to consignors to produce complete descriptions about the items they're selling?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Boss of Heritage Auctions
Huh? Writers? Why do we need to hire writers? I never could pass spelling or grammar back in grade school myself.


Just another example/instance of the major auction houses cheaping out and dumbing down the services they offer to consignors.

__________________
That government governs best that governs least.

Last edited by Balticfox; 01-14-2025 at 10:06 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-14-2025, 03:09 PM
JollyElm's Avatar
JollyElm JollyElm is offline
D@rrΣn Hu.ghΣs
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Cardboard Land
Posts: 8,102
Default

You know how you can absolutely tell a human didn't compose that write-up??

Because there is no mention of WAR anywhere in the paragraph.
__________________
All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land

https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm

Looking to trade? Here's my bucket:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706

“I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.”
Casey Stengel

Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s.

Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Heritage descriptions? puckpaul Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 35 03-25-2022 03:51 AM
Heritage Auctions groundskeeper WaterCooler Talk- Off Topics 18 04-28-2019 09:52 PM
Heritage Auctions Shoeless Moe Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 124 07-24-2012 09:38 AM
Heritage Auctions - CJ's rainier2004 Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 0 01-30-2012 03:58 PM
Heritage Auctions Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 38 10-30-2007 12:57 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:31 AM.


ebay GSB