Vic Harris, John Donaldson

[theshleps]

With these 2 men on the eras committee ballot I am wondering how many autographs of them (Donaldson and Harris) exist? They both died in the 1970s but are there many signatures out there?
On the others it seems like they keep recycling the same names (Allen, Boyer, Garvey, Parker, John, Tiant) how many times do they have to be rejected between the regular 15 years of voting and the veterans committee before they should just give up and when guys like Hodges make it after being rejected close to 20x what does that suggest? Do they finally get the right committee members? What makes them qualify now when they didn't so many times previously?

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Apparently, what makes them qualify is nothing but the stubborn insistence of whoever is responsible for posting the same snooze fest of undeserving names when there are so many more deserving.

[Smanzari]

I think both make it this year, and I'd wager their signatures are super scarce and will be crazy expensive

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

Apparently, what makes them qualify is nothing but the stubborn insistence of whoever is responsible for posting the same snooze fest of undeserving names when there are so many more deserving.

Have you looked at their contributions? Or just speaking from ignorance? Harris has highest win percentage as manager in history and Donaldson threw 14 No Hitters (Twice that of Nolan Ryan)

[dgo71]

I would think both Harris and Donaldson are exceptionally rare, even though Donaldson was quite popular with the public.

To your point on the names on the ballot, I couldn't agree more. The committee is considering over 100 years of baseball history and has to whittle that immense list of players down to only 8 names. I find it hard to believe there was nobody during that span of time that deserves consideration before voting on Garvey, Boyer, Tiant, etc. for the 5th or 6th time. At this point it's pretty clear they just want these guys in, much like Hodges as you mentioned. If that's the case, just have a "special election" or something and put them all in, or drop them from consideration altogether. It's long past time that a host of other names make the ballot so they can at least be considered.

[khw]

ok well just had 2 nice sales on my khwtwo site , cheaper uncerted commons site.....same guy bought a 1968 topps john donaldson oakland a`s and a 1973 topps rangers vic harris 25.00 out the door shipped

[dgo71]

Originally Posted by khw

ok well just had 2 nice sales on my khwtwo site , cheaper uncerted commons site.....same guy bought a 1968 topps john donaldson oakland a`s and a 1973 topps rangers vic harris 25.00 out the door shipped

Gotta love people who don't do a tiny bit of homework.

[stat192]

The 1968 Donaldson and 1973 Harris are not the ones nominated for the Hall of Fame.