BST Section: Has priceless become the norm rather than the exception?

[bcbgcbrcb]

This is just my view on something that has been bothering me for quite some time now. Of course, the easy response is “if it bothers you so much, don’t look at it”. It seems to have gotten to the point where board members list more stuff for sale on Net54 with no price given and simply stating fielding offers. In this manner, the seller tries to ensure that they are not leaving a single dollar on the table while taking zero risk of auctioning the item, which might maximize their return or might also leave them with a huge disappointment. Whenever I come across a listing like this, I simply move on as I do not support this type of activity. Over the years, this was always frowned upon by most board members but seems to have become the new norm these days.

Thoughts?

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

I don't bother with it, either. Same goes at shows. If you refuse to price your items, I'm moving on. That's the least you can do as the seller. Hate to break it to you, but it's your job.

If it's somebody who truly can't determine a price due to being outside of the hobby, let's say, then that's a much more understandable situation. But usually, it's exactly what Phil describes above. No, thanks.

[bnorth]

In the BST section I usually just pass also depending on who the seller is. I have got some great stuff that was listed without a price. Usually, especially with one seller they want WAAAAY more than you can buy from pretty much anyplace else so I never even click on anything they have for sale now.

[Peter_Spaeth]

What's the issue? Either make an offer, or don't.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What's the issue? Either make an offer, or don't.

I guess everyone wants someone else to start the bidding.

Plus we all want to reserve the right to be incensed that the other party is irrationally exuberant with their expectations around price.

[Kutcher55]

Good gosh, Peter. You always need to be the contrarian don’t you? And you’re almost always wrong as you are in this case. So annoying.

Anyway, yes a seller should price their cards and stop fishing for offers. Same for dealers. I just avoid them. Agree with the OP.

[Peter_Spaeth]

And when people do price their cards, people just bitch they're pricing them too high.

Not contrarian at all. IMO a seller can do what they want, if it doesn't work for you, move on. Don't see why they owe it to anyone to put a price if they prefer to solicit offers.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Kutcher55

Good gosh, Peter. You always need to be the contrarian don’t you? And you’re almost always wrong as you are in this case. So annoying.

Anyway, yes a seller should price their cards and stop fishing for offers. Same for dealers. I just avoid them. Agree with the OP.

Yeah that's a fair statement, always contrarian. Right dude. And I am sure in your infinite wisdom you're competent to decide who's right and wrong in matters of opinion. Give me a break.

[brianp-beme]

I have four lots listed in the BST S1.00 auction section. In the description I indicated that the starting bid is $1.00. Should I have left the $1.00 starting info out of the description with the hope someone would bid with the mistaken belief that my 1962 Post Cereal card lots actually had a $100 opening bid?

Brian (always looking for response angles within a perfectly round circle)

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Snapolitoji638

For those complaining that this is really trivial and not so important as to get aggravated about . . . I hate to break the bad news, but nothing we discuss on this board is actually important.

Just more filler to divert us from the stark reality that our days are numbered and no one has any idea what this is all about.

Well, vintage baseball cards are merely symbolic of how another year has passed, and yet we’re still chasing the same elusive ephemeral pieces of cardboard. No matter how desperately we hope that next card will make our collection complete, we know it’s not to be. The truth is, for the rest of our obsessive, nostalgic, wretched lives, we’ll always be missing that one holy grail. Inevitably, irrevocably; a complete collection? No such thing.

[brunswickreeves]

Just 1 more card…

[obcbobd]

I'd prefer to see a price in the BST section and if there is not one, I jsut move on. Can't say it bothers me too much. More bothered by seeing this at shows. It's one thing if someone has a rare Babe Ruth, but when they have a box or binder of 60s commons and no pricing; that I mind.

[4815162342]

I wonder how Bruce Dorskind would reply to this thread?

[mrreality68]

Hi

I do not mind if it is listed or not

I have done it both ways.

When I have cards that have Comps that I can compare and no the market value I price them.

However, it gets difficult when the card I have is rare and it does not come up often enough to have a comp then I do put taking offers.

I do not mind if someone does not send an offer, I do not mind if someone passes it up.

But Understand (But you do not have to like or agree)

I am trying to maximize my money when I am selling something and I do not want to short change my potential sale and I do not want to take a loss so by taking offers I see what people are willing to pay and if it is a number I like I accept it, if it is a number I do not like then I respectfully pass.

If someone emails me and says what is my price range or what I am asking I repsectully explain myself or if I have gotten offers I may advise them so they can decide how they want or not want to proceed

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

I wonder how Bruce Dorskind would reply to this thread?

Whilst you were replying to this thread, we added several exceedingly rare examples of pre-war material to our collection.

[HercDriver]

For what it's worth, I hate it when sellers post the sales price, but not the item for sale. But at least I know what it's going to set me back...

Cheers,
Geno

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

For those complaining that this is really trivial and not so important as to get aggravated about . . . I hate to break the bad news, but nothing we discuss on this board is actually important.

Just more filler to divert us from the stark reality that our days are numbered and no one has any idea what this is all about.

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Well, vintage baseball cards are merely symbolic of how another year has passed, and yet we’re still chasing the same elusive ephemeral pieces of cardboard. No matter how desperately we hope that next card will make our collection complete, we know it’s not to be. The truth is, for the rest of our obsessive, nostalgic, wretched lives, we’ll always be missing that one holy grail. Inevitably, irrevocably; a complete collection? No such thing.

Truth!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Whilst you were replying to this thread, we added several exceedingly rare examples of pre-war material to our collection.

Pretty much spot on. Bravo! He was always good for some entertainment. He knew something about the stuff, but he did not have a good delivery, to put it mildly.
I will always remember him for the Boston Garter panel and threatening to sue himself.

Back to topic, I reiterate my preference for prices and pictures when listing things for sale....
.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Leon

Pretty much spot on. Bravo! He was always good for some entertainment. He knew something about the stuff, but he did not have a good delivery, to put it mildly.
I will always remember him for the Boston Garter panel and threatening to sue himself.

Back to topic, I reiterate my preference for prices and pictures when listing things for sale....
.

What's funny is that I read Leon's post and figured it had to be about Bruce. Then I went back to post $73 and sure enough. It's kind of strange how we continue to remember some of these collecting characters.

Just a thought. If someone doesn't want to put a price to something in the BST, then it's kind of for sale, but the person is waiting for an offer. It could always transform into the SOB or T (Sale, Offer, Buy, or Trade) section. If someone isn't going to put a price on something then have it go into a single bucket called the "O"ffer thread. This way people can have a column for cards that require an offer and nobody has to be annoyed with reading a Sale post without a price. Or, it can just stay the BST and we can have threads like this.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Fred

…the SOB or T (Sale, Offer, Buy, or Trade) section…

An SOB section? I like it.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Whilst you were replying to this thread, we added several exceedingly rare examples of pre-war material to our collection.

Who is (was) we?

How arrogant can one get.....

RiP Bruce Dorskind


The greed is strong, wait for fear

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Who is (was) we?

How arrogant can one get.....

RiP Bruce Dorskind


The greed is strong, wait for fear

Do you not remember the Bruces?

[Republicaninmass]

Lol, yes he sued himself and won !

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[JamesGallo]

My issue is that often the cards that dont have prices are higher end or rare. So having a starting point is helpful. If i see a post without a price or a scan i just move on. I dont see the point posting a card for sale without a picture. Similarly on a more expansive card it is helpful to know where your starting point is. If you post a price of 20k on a card that sells for 8-10k vs 20k on a 15k card that is a massive difference as i may be able to close the gap on the 15k card but not on the card at double market. That being said at least for the higher end cards i am not overly serious to bother inquiring, but a lower end card with a picture might be an impulse buy which is negated if the picture is missing which them kills the quick impulse.

James G