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Old 10-01-2023, 02:52 PM
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Does anyone know what exactly this document is? Is it an ad? Was it inserted with the game?

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I don't know, I presume from the folds it came with the set, but those instructions seem really hard to follow.
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Here's some info from prewarcards.com
https://prewarcards.com/2016/10/06/w...and-checklist/
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Nice stamp...Sherman, as everyone knows, is the Pocketbook King. It is a little tough to make out the town, state, etc. that is listed for the business. Perhaps the OP can dechiper and pass along that info.

I imagine these rules were included as part of the box set. It just makes sense that this is the case.

And just for a little associated background information, here is what I wrote about the respective printing dates of the Tom Barker cards versus the National game game cards several years back, based upon the team change/photo change seen in the Hal Chase cards in both sets.

A few years ago it was neat to discover (maybe I wasn't the first) that the Hal Chase cards in the 1913 National Game and 1913 Tom Barker are different poses, with the National Game set designating him as a New York Yankee and depicting him in a Yankee uniform, while the Tom Barker designates him as a member of the Chicago White Sox and shows him in a White Sox uniform.

These two Chase cards definitively point to the fact that the National Game set was issued before the Tom Barker in 1913, since Hal Chase was traded from the Yankees to the White Sox on June 1st, 1913. Both the Tom Barker and National Game cards have a patent date on the back of the card of March 25, 1913. Thus the National Game set was likely first issued in spring of 1913, while the Tom Barker set had to have been issued late summer 1913 at the earliest.

Why is this cool? For rookie collectors who are persnickety, Grover Alexander's National Game card can be identified as being his first card issued, with his Tom Barker a close second.

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Right after posting my previous post, I looked closer and the rulebook stamp does appear to indicate Boston Mass.

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Tom Barker's Game was designated WG6 by Mr. Burdick,
The National Game was designated WG5.

NB that Brian's Alexander is a WG5, IF PSA got that one right.

So, I'm posting this so you can see the Rules card and the Scoring card.


That paper above doesn't have all of the rules, it's more of a small handbill or advertisement. The Rules card came with the game. That piece of paper realistically has a hand stamp shop advertisement on it... someone may well have picked up that piece of paper, bought the game, then folded that paper and placed it inside. But I don't think that paper came inside the game box; I think it was laying around to get someone thinking about buying the game.

The WG5s and WG6s are normal playing card size. How big is that piece of paper, as folded?


I do confess that prior to seeing that picture of hands holding cards, I had not bothered to grasp that whoever's team was "hitting" would hold cards so "batter" appeared on the left side; while whoever was in the field would hold their cards so that "batter" was upside down and on the right.

I don't think that paper was included with the original box. But it's a great piece of the games puzzle.

If I ever get a weekend to converse with and ask Jefferson Burdick questions, I'll ask about why National Game got WG5 and Tom Barker got WG6, and who was copying who...
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