Red Schoendienst Premium id help needed.

[Lucas00]

I'm going to say it likely dates late 40s/early 50s. Unfortunately I can't see the front of his uniform to date it better.
No identifications, back is completely blank. 8x10.
Any Help very appreciated!

[Kaneen]

Not sure if this will help any as to dating when that premium was released, but as for the photograph used, it is strikingly similar to the one used for Red's 1948 Bowman card...could it have even been taken the same day? Note the way the bill on the cap was bent, and the piping on the uniform seems to match up, though hard to tell exact details due to the discoloration on the Bowman card. Anyhow, I just thought it might help add context to the dating of the photograph, which if in the same uniform, would have had to have been taken pre-1948.

PS. I've always loved having this Schoendienst 48B "rookie card" with such an early career signature inscribed and dated in 1949.

[Kaneen]

...and after I made the post and saw the 2 photos near each other, I noticed that Red had on an undershirt with sleeves in the 48B photo, and sleeveless in your photo. So definitely not taken same day.

Good luck with your quest for info!

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by Kaneen

...and after I made the post and saw the 2 photos near each other, I noticed that Red had on an undershirt with sleeves in the 48B photo, and sleeveless in your photo. So definitely not taken same day.

Good luck with your quest for info!

Thanks for sharing! In any case, I love seeing that card signed with period inscriptions. That is definitely a rare thing for any player to do.

[Lucas00]

Where are our premium gurus at?

[Directly]

Possibility--photo was taken at Sportsman Park

The 1944 World Series was an all-St. Louis World Series, matching the St. Louis Cardinals and St. Louis Browns at Sportsman's Park.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by Directly

Possibility--photo was taken at Sportsman Park

The 1944 World Series was an all-St. Louis World Series, matching the St. Louis Cardinals and St. Louis Browns at Sportsman's Park.

Reds Rookie year was 1945. Didn't play in 1944. Not sure what the browns have to do with it? Both teams played at sportsmans park.

[JCRedbird]

The Cardinals "rented" Sportsmans from the Browns. The Cardinals bought the park for $800k at the beginning of the 53 season with the agreement to reverse the arrangement and lease back to the Browns. However, the Browns would only see one more season in St. Louis before moving to Baltimore.

[GoCubsGo32]

I don't know when the Premium was released. However, when the photo was taken for the this Premium.... I can slightly help!

Jersey & Billboard ads are the key.
As you mention jersey elimination would be kinda tough.

1950 would be the only "1950s" and don't believe that's it. So...thinking it's late 1940's

Based on the Alphen Brau "COLD", "Sealy" & Philip Morris ad...shown

I think the answer maybe 1947. I don't know if this user has the correct year or not, but at least you can more of the Falstaff ad instead of just the bottom to help pin point.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/crawfordbrian/38228993034

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by GoCubsGo32

I don't know when the Premium was released. However, when the photo was taken for the this Premium.... I can slightly help!

Jersey & Billboard ads are the key.
As you mention jersey elimination would be kinda tough.

1950 would be the only "1950s" and don't believe that's it. So...thinking it's late 1940's

Based on the Alphen Brau "COLD", "Sealy" & Philip Morris ad...shown

I think the answer maybe 1947. I don't know if this user has the correct year or not, but at least you can more of the Falstaff ad instead of just the bottom to help pin point.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/crawfordbrian/38228993034

Great info Gary! Certainly a good start

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

Where are our premium gurus at?

.. Let John Rumierz know that you're stumped. That's all it takes. He's an encyclopaedia of this kind of stuff. Prolly has two hisself.

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