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Old 01-05-2023, 03:53 PM
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Default Has anyone been able to remove a fake Sharpie auto from an old card?

I have a few 1960s/70s cards signed with blue and black Sharpies that are apparently TTM secretarials or such (signed in the late 70s/early 80s). Since the cards are basically ruined to begin with, I'm wondering if anyone has experience in soaking off the signatures in order to make them 'whole' again? The writing is on front, so it sits upon the gloss, which would seem to be a good thing, but who knows if this type of ink fuses to said gloss. At least one of the blues has turned lighter and purplish over time, so it doesn't seem to be overly permanent?

I know the most likely answer is I just have to try it for myself and see, but I'm hoping someone has some experience-based insight they can offer.

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I've seen inscriptions/personalization removed, so it is possible.

Famously 2 1990 george Bush signed topps cards sold and appeared shortly thereafter without inscriptions
Only 2 signed copies I've ever seen, forever tainted
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Not possible on 60s/70s cards. Very easy to do with modern (2000ish-present) cards.
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Added a scan to the mix. Guess I'll see what I can do on the 1974 Mays card ('worth' the least) sometime soon, but don't have any hope of anything being improved...unless someone can tell me they had success with this scenario before.

Might just have to sell them all for parts.
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Not even worth the attempt on older cards. As someone noted above, it's an entirely different scenario from the ultra-glossy, modern world. Anything you try will only make it worse.
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Not even worth the attempt on older cards. As someone noted above, it's an entirely different scenario from the ultra-glossy, modern world. Anything you try will only make it worse.
Exactly correct. They dry erase marker removal that works on photos would never work on any of the older cards. I think it would definitely work on the newer stuff only.
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The weird thing is, although it seems to be accepted that Willie Mays had a ghost signer (wife?), it's hard to ignore that the word "Mays" seems to be entirely consistent with the way his authenticated (past few decades) autograph is written, and the basic structure of those loops on the 'W' and 'M' seem to be the earliest version of what his signature became. The 'W' loop eventually turning into what looks like a capital 'T.'

I know, I know, perhaps it's wishful thinking, but I've never been convinced that all of those somewhat flamboyant TTM autographs were fakes.
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