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Old 12-20-2022, 09:20 AM
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Default Top 10 Non-HOFers in T206
I just got my first Bill Dahlen, which made me think about the best players in the T206 set to not make the Hall of Fame. Here’s the Top 10 I came up with. Who is on your list?

1. Bill Dahlen
2. Ed Cicotte
3. Sherry Magee
4. Ed Reulbach
5. Hal Chase
6. Larry Doyle
7. Cy Seymour
8. Gavvy Cravath
9. Harry Davis
10. Wildfire Schulte
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Old 12-20-2022, 09:40 AM
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Great list!

I might put Wild Bill Donovan, George Mullin, Nap Rucker, Johnny Kling, and Ginger Beaumont ahead of Schulte.
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Check out Jimmy Williams, he should be in the top ten

Edited to include: Ok, maybe not, haha
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Old 12-20-2022, 09:54 AM
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Chief Mayers?
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Old 12-20-2022, 09:56 AM
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Mike Donlin, one of the most enigmatic players ever to see the diamond. Boy, could he hit (when he felt like it).
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Mike Donlin, one of the most enigmatic players ever to see the diamond. Boy, could he hit (when he felt like it).
Donlin is a great one to add!

I would also add Arlie Latham. Best nickname of all time in my opinion: The Freshest Man on Earth
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Dahlen for sure. Have to think on others. Magee? Trent King
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I agree!
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Ed Konetchy was a solid, consistent first baseman.
Tied for 15th all-time in triples. Every other player in the top 20 is in the HOF.

Tommy Leach is also worthy of consideration.
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I just got my first Bill Dahlen, which made me think about the best players in the T206 set to not make the Hall of Fame. Here’s the Top 10 I came up with. Who is on your list?

1. Bill Dahlen
2. Ed Cicotte
3. Sherry Magee
4. Ed Reulbach
5. Hal Chase
6. Larry Doyle
7. Cy Seymour
8. Gavvy Cravath
9. Harry Davis
10. Wildfire Schulte
I'd include Ginger Beaumont- a borderline HOFer.

I'd skip Hal Chase, he was a renown game fixer!
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Also the SABR/analytics crowd LOVES Jimmy Sheckard..
49.5 WAR (higher than many HOFers)... Bill James listed him as the #1 non-Hofer from the 1900's decade. James listed Dahlen in the 1890's group.
.. statistically superior fielder with a high on-base percentage...
Stole a lot of bases and scored a lot of runs ... 2000+ hits ...

-- McGraw/Giants SS Arthur Fletcher is also credited as one of the greatest fielders at his position (relative to his contemporaries).. he also got on base.. lifetime War of 47.5 -- ahead of several SS in the HOF. Fletcher was just starting out when T206 was issued (1909 rookie year in the majors).
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Cubs are doing well here, between Reulbach, Sheckard, Kling, Schulte, Zimmerman, etc….nothing ‘common’ about these heroic champs.
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Thanks for the fun conversation, guys. Could easily make a very solid top 20 Non-HOFers list
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By WAR i am pretty sure these are the highest…

1. Bill Dahlen 75.2
2. Sherry Magee 59.4
3. Ed Cicotte 59.0
4. Jack Quinn 58.7
5. Jack Powell 55.4
6. Al Orth 51.3
7. Jimmy Sheckard 49.5
8. Doc White 48.6
9. George Mullin 47.6
10. Nap Rucker 47.2
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I show Art Fletcher’s WAR as 45, what do you have those ten guys at?
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I show Art Fletcher’s WAR as 45, what do you have those ten guys at?
They are all higher than 45. Nap Rucker is the lowest at 47.2
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