Pujols, Mr. September

[Peter_Spaeth]

Just checked, after 9.1 he had 9 HR and 27 RBI. Sure helps to be THAT hot when chasing milestones. One does wonder a bit. Those 9 RBI in 4 games to close out the chase for 2nd place was amazing especially.

[isiahfan]

I feel as if he basicaly was pitched underhand for the last two months...cheapens the 700 and RBI marks IMO.

[ClementeFanOh]

Isiahfan- I feel that Bonds' "activities" cheapened the 700 HRs. The conspiracy
theory stuff (pitchers getting together to decide it's okay to groove pitches
to one guy, at their expense) is lame. Great player, great accomplishments-
and no, I'm neither a Cards nor Angels fan. What's a player have to do to
impress? Wow... Trent King

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

Isiahfan- I feel that Bonds' "activities" cheapened the 700 HRs. The conspiracy
theory stuff (pitchers getting together to decide it's okay to groove pitches
to one guy, at their expense) is lame. Great player, great accomplishments-
and no, I'm neither a Cards nor Angels fan. What's a player have to do to
impress? Wow... Trent King

I'd like to see someone who knows math estimate the deviation between his last month and the rest of the season and the odds of it. 9 RBI in 4 days when he just happens to be chasing Ruth? Doesn't feel right to me. Agree of course on Bonds. And agree of course Pujols is a very great player.

[G1911]

He was hotter in July and August than he was in September. 4 games is a tiny sample size for baseball and prone to all kinds of extremes, from batting .000 to .700. I don't see anything nefarious.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Yes, tiny sample size, but Oddhe came up with it in the final four games of his career needing a near impossible performance to break a record.

[isiahfan]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

Isiahfan- I feel that Bonds' "activities" cheapened the 700 HRs. The conspiracy
theory stuff (pitchers getting together to decide it's okay to groove pitches
to one guy, at their expense) is lame. Great player, great accomplishments-
and no, I'm neither a Cards nor Angels fan. What's a player have to do to
impress? Wow... Trent King

Oh I am greatly impressed by him...but make no mistake he was getting a retirement grand tour of grooved pitches...fastballs...middle of the plate...belt high....

and I agree with you on Bonds..

and as small as a sample size as it was tonight...0-4 when a game mattered...maybe he'll go 4-4 with 2HR tomorrow and show me

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by isiahfan

Oh I am greatly impressed by him...but make no mistake he was getting a retirement grand tour of grooved pitches...fastballs...middle of the plate...belt high....

and I agree with you on Binds..

and as small as a sample size as it was tonight...0-4 when a game mattered...maybe he'll go 4-4 with 2HR tomorrow and show me

i didnt check who the pitchers were but most pitchers are pretty particular about keeping their era in check and not groove fastballs..certain veterans perhaps..

if go to arbitration and a reliever says 'yeah i gave up 5 homers late in games but 1 was to pujols, wink wink'' then ill believe they just grooving fastballs.

end of year usually have bad relievers filling up innings as well, larger rosters etc..last day of year was a lot of big games by not big time hitters for the time...small sample..but just saying

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by isiahfan

Oh I am greatly impressed by him...but make no mistake he was getting a retirement grand tour of grooved pitches...fastballs...middle of the plate...belt high....

and I agree with you on Binds..

and as small as a sample size as it was tonight...0-4 when a game mattered...maybe he'll go 4-4 with 2HR tomorrow and show me

You are probably right in many cases a retirement tour but I am sure others did also.
Regardless great story and great ending to that story. AND I enjoyed watching it