Let’s rank top 10-15 T206 Players

[Rhotchkiss]

It’s a gross, rainy day in DC. Thankfully football is on, but I am still bored. So why not start a thread. Here goes:

(Open for discussion): I am assuming the following are the best 9 players who have a card in the t206 set. Not the best t206 cards, the best players. I say 9 bc after Plank, I cant think of who I would put at 10.

1. Cobb
2. Wagner
3. Johnson
4. Mathewson
5. Young
6. Speaker
7. Lajoie
8. E Collins
9. Plank

So who are the next 6 best players, making up 10-15? Here is my ranking:

10. Crawford
11. Clarke
12. Tinker
13. Chance
14. Keeler
15. Dahlen

[jsfriedm]

A couple of names that I would put ahead of most of those on your 10-15 list:

Ed Walsh
Mordecai Brown
Frank Baker (vastly underrated; best third baseman before Eddie Matthews. I tend to think about the American league star cohort that came up between 1905-1910 as similar to the young National League cohort of 1951-1956, i.e. Cobb, Speaker, Collins vs. Mays, Aaron, Robinson. Baker is like the Ernie Banks of the group - through 1960, he was every bit as good as Mays or Aaron, just like Baker was through 1914)

[ClementeFanOh]

Intriguing thread! I'd make sure Hal Chase has a spot though. Trent King

[Luke]

I love this topic. I agree with your top 10, and I think Crawford belongs there as a lock. From 11-40 I'm really not sure what the order should be.

Some contenders for #11 in my opinion:

Davis
Keeler
Walsh
Brown
Joss
Baker
Dahlen
McGinnity
Wheat
Waddell

And then how to rank Chance, Clarke, Griffith and McGraw who were great players and iconic managers/executives?

[Peter_Spaeth]

11-15 Keeler, Waddell, Walsh, Brown, Baker.

[Scocs]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

11-15 Keeler, Waddell, Walsh, Brown, Baker.

+1

[Baseball Rarities]

1. Cobb
2. Johnson
3. Wagner
4. Young
5. Speaker
6. Mathewson
7. Collins
8. Lajoie
9. Plank
10. Waddell
11. Crawford
12. Brown
13. Baker
14. Keeler
15. Walsh

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

It’s a gross, rainy day in DC. Thankfully football is on, but I am still bored. So why not start a thread. Here goes:

(Open for discussion): I am assuming the following are the best 9 players who have a card in the t206 set. Not the best t206 cards, the best players. I say 9 bc after Plank, I cant think of who I would put at 10.

1. Cobb
2. Wagner
3. Johnson
4. Mathewson
5. Young
6. Speaker
7. Lajoie
8. E Collins
9. Plank

So who are the next 6 best players, making up 10-15? Here is my ranking:

10. Crawford
11. Clarke
12. Tinker
13. Chance
14. Keeler
15. Dahlen

I agree with your top 9, but I think Tinkers, Evers, and Chance are very close to each other and would be part of a 3rd Tier, along with Clarke, Keeler (Keeler had few dominant seasons and was not a great fielder) and others.

My 10 through 15 would be:
10) Walsh (although I think a lot of his success was b/c of his spitball)
11) Waddell
12) "Home Run" Baker
13) Joe McGinnity
14) TIE between George Davis (put up a career WAR of 84.5), Sam Crawford and Bill Dahlen.

Honorable Mentions: Had Addie Joss lived a little longer, he'd likely be up there too, Vic Willis (put up a WAR of 8 ore more 4x), and Mordecai Brown

[bigjaco]

Are we talking career or just during the t206 era?

If just the t206 era anyone missing Joss on their list of top 10 .. or top 3 of pitchers is just wrong.

[Bobbycee]

Nice thread, & good lists. But, how about when this is exhausted, we come up with the 10 WORST T206 players. Or, 10 players who should have been on a T206 card.

[RCMcKenzie]

I've heard a lot of people say that Evers was better than Tinker and Chance, but I really don't know. I never saw them play.

[Chuck9788]

Do any of these HOF players (below) that have not been mentioned on this thread stand a chance of cracking the Top #15 list?

Roger Bresnahan
Fred Clarke
Jimmy Collins
Hugh Duffy
Hughie Jennings
Joe McGinnity

[Bridwell]

I would say no. Some were stars much earlier than T206 era. Some were good managers and that helped their resume.

[bobbvc]

Originally Posted by Chuck9788

Do any of these HOF players (below) that have not been mentioned on this thread stand a chance of cracking the Top #15 list?

Roger Bresnahan
Fred Clarke
Jimmy Collins
Hugh Duffy
Hughie Jennings
Joe McGinnity

Clarke is #11 in the first post. I agree he's top 15.

[Leon]

This is a pretty good list.

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

It’s a gross, rainy day in DC. Thankfully football is on, but I am still bored. So why not start a thread. Here goes:

(Open for discussion): I am assuming the following are the best 9 players who have a card in the t206 set. Not the best t206 cards, the best players. I say 9 bc after Plank, I cant think of who I would put at 10.

1. Cobb
2. Wagner
3. Johnson
4. Mathewson
5. Young
6. Speaker
7. Lajoie
8. E Collins
9. Plank

So who are the next 6 best players, making up 10-15? Here is my ranking:

10. Crawford
11. Clarke
12. Tinker
13. Chance
14. Keeler
15. Dahlen

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[chjh]

This is a great thread. Enjoyable to read. I'd try and factor in both stats and impact on the game 100 years later. I'd rank as follows:

1. Cobb
2. Young
3. Wagner
4. Johnson
5. Mathewson
6. Plank
7. Lajoie
8. Speaker
9. Collins