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Old 08-31-2022, 07:50 AM
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Default W575-1 Were Never Hand Cut

I have made this rant before. Sorry for the duplication.

I am currently having a friendly debate with someone on ebay. They said they have the highest graded w575-1 Speaker in a 4 holder. They don't.
SGC (and probably PSA) did, or do, put "hand cut" on their labels for them, which is 100% wrong unless they were trimmed. This guy is saying mine were hand cut. I have the pack they came in and they definitely aren't hand cut. SGC told me they weren't hand cut when they slabbed them and put it on their labels. They told me to have people call them and they would tell them they aren't hand cut I think it is/was their "policy." I was not happy and now people believe that misconception. ..
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Will they re-holder them without the "hand-cut" designation? Might be the best course to maximize value when you sell.
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Will they re-holder them without the "hand-cut" designation? Might be the best course to maximize value when you sell.
Re-holder? Not a chance with their company. I even sent the pack in with them and they still hosed the flips up!!

Mac, some of my grades, I felt, were disgraceful too.


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Definitely a few W sets that aren't actually strips. Very frustrating!
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I believe that there are probably multiple different issues that are all lumped together under the W575-1 umbrella. I believe Leon is (partially) correct that (some/many) W575-1 cards were not hand cut. I also believe that some were. Here are 3 examples I have that seem to point to the cards also being issued in strip format.

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I believe that there are probably multiple different issues that are all lumped together under the W575-1 umbrella. I believe Leon is (partially) correct that (some/many) W575-1 cards were not hand cut. I also believe that some were. Here are 3 examples I have that seem to point to also being issued in strip format.

Brian (the backs have been enlarged, like on cereal boxes, to show texture. Or perhaps my scanning abilities are sadly lacking. Today, and today only, it is your choice to believe either)
Those look like 2 trimmed cards and one W501? How many of these strips have we seen, if they are strip cards? That said, there is little doubt they were manufactured in sheets.
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At least yours got the appropriate grade...baffling approach to grading these.
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Don't look like any hand cut card I've ever seen.
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I have made this rant before. Sorry for the duplication.

I am currently having a friendly debate with someone on ebay. They said they have the highest graded w575-1 Speaker in a 4 holder. They don't.
SGC (and probably PSA) did, or do, put "hand cut" on their labels for them, which is 100% wrong unless they were trimmed. This guy is saying mine were hand cut. I have the pack they came in and they definitely aren't hand cut. SGC told me they weren't hand cut when they slabbed them and put it on their labels. They told me to have people call them and they would tell them they aren't hand cut I think it is/was their "policy." I was not happy and now people believe that misconception. ..
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I am with yo on this one. They also do not understand the Koester Bread issues. I had one that was in a PSA slab labeled Koester bread and I unfortunately broke it out and SGC labeled it W575-1. Fortunately I saved the flip and resubmitted back to PSA and it is now labeled correctly. Ugh
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