T206 group of 350-only Series NO-PRINTS....CB, EPDG, OM, PB

[tedzan]

The 350-only Series cards are essentially defined by the AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 - BROAD LEAF 350 - CYCLE 350 - DRUM connection. This connection includes 190 subjects.

I have identified a group of 37 subjects in this group of 190 subjects which are unique in this Series, in that they share a common pattern. They were NOT PRINTED with the
very popular 350-only backs....CAROLINA BRIGHTS....El PRINCIPE de GALES....OLD MILL....POLAR BEAR.


A - B - C - D connection



I find this quite interesting, in that it tells us that these 37 guys are sort of "exclusive" with respect to the other 153 subjects in the 350-only Series.

I am sharing this information with you guys, who get a "big kick" out of putting together T206 runs. Therefore, you do not have to go off on a wild-
goose chase searching for certain T206's that really do not exist.

Checklist of this "exclusive" group of 37 subjects that are 350-only series NO-PRINTS with respect to CAROLINA BRIGHTS, EPDG, OLD MILL, POLAR BEAR backs......

Arndt
Becker
Butler
Cassidy
Charles
Donovan (throwing)
Doolan (fielding)
Downs
Fletcher
Hall
Hoffman (St Louis)
Howell (portrait)
Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands at mouth)
Hunter
Killian (portrait)
Knabe
Lennox
Malarkey
Marquard (portrait)

Marshall
McBride
McElveen
McGinley
McIntyre (Detroit)
Mitchell (Cincinnati)
Mitchell (Toronto)
Moran (Providence)
Myers (batting)
Paskert
Phelan
Poland
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Schmidt (portrait)
Starr
Street (portrait)
Summers


TED Z

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[mrvster]

Ted ! I love that BL back

[Thromdog]

Where would Cross fit in since his only offback is Tolstoi? 350 only subject that is pretty unique on its own….

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by mrvster

Ted ! I love that BL back

Hey Johnny....I love it, too. It belongs to my favorite T206 Minor Leaguer......Ed Delahanty's youngest brother.

Hey good buddy, it's really great hearing from you.



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Next time I am at the Jersey shore area, I will call you and we can to get together for lunch. We'll spend hours....Talking T206's


TED Z

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[HobokenJon]

Originally Posted by Thromdog

Where would Cross fit in since his only offback is Tolstoi? 350 only subject that is pretty unique on its own….

Bobby Byrne, too. Only nonstandard backs are Tolstoi and Sovereign 350.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by HobokenJon

Bobby Byrne, too. Only nonstandard backs are Tolstoi and Sovereign 350.

Besides Piedmont and Sweet Caporal Rossman is also only on Tolstoi and Sovereign.

[tedzan]

Claude Rossman is an interesting guy. His MLB career was a short one (5 years). And, doing a T206 run of his cards should be easy
since he was printed with only 6 backs. Not so, though, his 1910 COUPON and his TOLSTOI are very tough.
For example....I think there are only 2 known 1910 COUPON cards of him.... mine and Rob McKenzie's (both ungraded). And, as far
as I know only one TOLSTOI is known.

I need only the TOLSTOI to complete this run. The scan of my Rossman from my SWEET CAPORAL Factory #30 set has disappeared.









TED Z

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[HobokenJon]

Originally Posted by Thromdog

Where would Cross fit in since his only offback is Tolstoi? 350 only subject that is pretty unique on its own….

Where does Cross fit in all of this? What about Bobby Byrne?

(Only offback for Cross is Tolstoi. Only offbacks for Byrne are Tolstoi and Sov 350 forest green.)

[Luke]

Not sure there's a clear answer to that question Jon.

In addition to Byrne, Mowrey and Rossman also have Sov350/Tolstoi/Coupon Type 1 as their only non Pied/SC backs.

Cross doesn't have a Sov350 or Coupon, so he's firmly in his own category.

[HobokenJon]

Originally Posted by Luke

Not sure there's a clear answer to that question Jon.

In addition to Byrne, Mowrey and Rossman also have Sov350/Tolstoi/Coupon Type 1 as their only non Pied/SC backs.

Cross doesn't have a Sov350 or Coupon, so he's firmly in his own category.

Ah, we must've hit the "submit reply" button within seconds of each other.

[HobokenJon]

My working assumption is that no one has any earthly idea why Cross's only offback is Tolstoi, and Byrne's only offbacks are Tolstoi and Sovereign 350 forest green.

But if anybody does have any good ideas about how it came to be this way, I'm all ears.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by HobokenJon

My working assumption is that no one has any earthly idea why Cross's only offback is Tolstoi, and Byrne's only offbacks are Tolstoi and Sovereign 350 forest green.

But if anybody does have any good ideas about how it came to be this way, I'm all ears.

I don't think we will ever know for sure. I posted one thought I had about it back in 2017.

Originally Posted by Pat R

I'm not sure if this is what you're asking and some of this has probably been discussed before.

Lundgren might be the most interesting print related subject in the set.
His Chicago variation was added late to print group 1 and the K.C.
variation was pulled early from print group 2.

With some of the information we have it looks like there were a few different stages
that the Piedmonts and SC350/30 and possibly SC350/25 were printed in.

There is a group of 16 (18 if you count Demmitt and O'Hara ST. Louis) subjects
that are the only no prints from print group 2 with AB frame, BL 350 and
cycle 350 backs.

Looking at this group it looks like Carolina Brights and EPDG could be part of
the earlier printing for print group 2. It looks like Bobby Byrne might have
replaced Lundgren Kansas City, Rossman might have replaced Demmitt New York
and Cross or Mowrey could have replaced O'Hara New York.

Attachment 291699

Here's the chart I made that didn't attach to the link. The chart was made before I confirmed the Rossman Tolstoi which changes the possible Rossman Demmitt NY conection.
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