Non-Paying EBay bidders

[ezez420]

I know that there must be a topic somewhere and maybe someone can direct me. I am sick of the non paying bidders on eBay and tampering with expensive auctions. Over the past week I have sold two cards via auction (which I rarely do) and dealt with people that give some feeble excuse or just say they don’t want item “it was a mistake”. I used to just cancel and relist but now I feel the need to give a nonpayment strike and get their name out there.

Ideas?

[earlywynnfan]

I have no proof at all, but I've always felt a nonpayment strike means absolutely nothing.

[pitburgfan]

Same here. Sold a card with no payment or contact for 4 days. I contacted him and told him I would ship the card as soon as payment is made. He said he changed his mind. Looked at his feedback and he had 3 positive feedback that said "stay away from this person" or "avoid this buyer". They still have 100% positive feedback. I canceled the order and blocked him as a buyer.

[Snapolit1]

I've sold a fair amount of cards on ebay in the last 6 months. Both old and new. It's a huge inconvenience and annoying as hell but when people stiff me I just relist the card and try to not get aggravated. Sometimes I have gotten a better price second time around. Probably 1 out of every 10-12 sales. I assume its just some jackass who has the same card and is trying to raise the floor on the card he is selling.

I love the no pays on cards for like 6 bucks. Really? You don't have $6. Jerks.

The shenanigans with modern stuff is off the charts. I had a guy recently who emailed me about how he wanted to make an offer on a 2020 rookie card and in one short paragraph referenced that he was a Marine like 6 times. Never made his offer because "Marine Corp business" kept pulling him away. Lots of Semper Fi's in follow up messages, more references to important Corp business, duty first, etc. I have no idea if he's actually a Marine, and if he is god bless, but seemed like well rehearsed schtick to me.

[mq711]

Why would anyone not give them a nonpayment strike?

[Johnny630]

Are These are a bad sign for the card market...is stuff is cooling off? I would say a good amount of things are, not all but some.

I see a lot of cards being listed on Facebook that are not selling.

Is their correction correction starting ? Just a Pause ?

I sense some nervousness.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by mq711

Why would anyone not give them a nonpayment strike?

Well, here's a real world example from myself, why some sellers may be becoming more averse to doing this.

I filed a non-payment for a couple of unpaid items last year. Right before it wound down, the buyer paid for them through Paypal (before managed payments).

They immediately filed to cancel the transactions under the guise of "Items Not as Described" (I hadn't even had a chance see the payment, let alone to ship them out yet), requested a refund...........and then sent me several follow up messages asking why I hadn't refunded them yet. These were all done in a span of minutes.

I could have shipped anyways, but likely more shenanigans would have ensued. So I cancelled, and ate the Paypal fees (because Paypal stopped returning fees from refunds)

Ebay has made it so easy to cancel transactions.........that a non-paying threat means little to nothing to these people now. They can pay, and still easily get their money back anyways........and then the non-payment warning goes away.

[Oscar_Stanage]

a lot of sellers have minimum feedback/transaction requirements for bidding on their items. i think this is the best way to deal with the non-pay issues.

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I've sold a fair amount of cards on ebay in the last 6 months. Both old and new. It's a huge inconvenience and annoying as hell but when people stiff me I just relist the card and try to not get aggravated. Sometimes I have gotten a better price second time around. Probably 1 out of every 10-12 sales. I assume its just some jackass who has the same card and is trying to raise the floor on the card he is selling.

I love the no pays on cards for like 6 bucks. Really? You don't have $6. Jerks.

Definitely relate to this. I've had 3 of these in the last month - 1 who won a card 1 week - hasn't paid, won like 7 more the following week - not paid. Blocked him and will have to relist. Another one on 2 auctions just ended (8 feedback) - have my fingers crossed, but not holding my breath. Ebay is getting worse and worse - they don't realize ultimately how profitability is tied to a good and fair experience for BOTH sellers and buyers. There is currently no viable alternative of which I am aware - as soon as there is I suspect Ebay will be down the tubes!! Any tech savvy members want to build a better mouse trap?

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by hcv123

There is currently no viable alternative of which I am aware - as soon as there is I suspect Ebay will be down the tubes!! Any tech savvy members want to build a better mouse trap?

Have you looked at Bonanza.com?

I just started playing around with it a bit - very familiar look & feel.

[ezez420]

What also pisses me off is that it becomes a recorded sale or makes you look like you are pushing item.

I am getting items removed from VCP but more often then not people don’t take that extra step. These items were a couple to few thousand each.


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[Snapolit1]

Also can raise suspicion that the buyer got the card and that there was some kind of problem and it was returned. Or that you were shilling your own card.

Originally Posted by ezez420

What also pisses me off is that it becomes a recorded sale or makes you look like you are pushing item.

I am getting items removed from VCP but more often then not people don’t take that extra step. These items were a couple to few thousand each.


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