Lots of people seem to want fake cards these days?

[ullmandds]

This seller is peddling all fakes...describes them as fakes...and people are still lining up????

https://www.ebay.com/sch/southernfri...p2047675.l2562

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

This seller is peddling all fakes...describes them as fakes...and people are still lining up????

https://www.ebay.com/sch/southernfri...p2047675.l2562

I just now sent them a message about their fakes. The item I tried to message on wouldn't let me because they had too many messages on it. So I sent them a general message with the same content. They are scammers if you ask me.

[Rhotchkiss]

They are pretty good fakes. I think the seller’s description is fair and his disclosures fine, that is, unless, he actually knows they are fake - which I suspect is likely the case - in which case its fraud (not sure legally, but certainly morally)

It is amazing to me that people will buy high value, raw cards online. Stupid is, as stupid does....

[Seven]

I'd wager that some of those bids he's getting are from shill accounts, driving the prices up. The classic line of "The original source of this card is unknown" combined with the "All Sales are Final" doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

He's a small step below the people that put fakes in cracked slabs and then reseal them and pass them off as legit. I've mentioned it before, how my Father got scammed by some crooked Ebay seller, on a Jordan RC of all things, still don't have the heart to tell him.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

They are pretty good fakes. I think the seller’s description is fair and his disclosures fine, that is, unless, he actually knows they are fake - which I suspect is likely the case - in which case its fraud (not sure legally, but certainly morally)

It is amazing to me that people will buy high value, raw cards online. Stupid is, as stupid does....

I have no qualms about buying raw on ebay...but I have 40 years of experience. I don't find these to be that good. But apparently to others they look good.

[ullmandds]

and while the seller's disclosure is ok...the buyers can still return...and most likely will!

[irv]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

and while the seller's disclosure is ok...the buyers can still return...and most likely will!

Unless I am missing something, the seller has this: "Returns:
Seller does not accept returns"

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

They are pretty good fakes. I think the seller’s description is fair and his disclosures fine, that is, unless, he actually knows they are fake - which I suspect is likely the case - in which case its fraud (not sure legally, but certainly morally)

It is amazing to me that people will buy high value, raw cards online. Stupid is, as stupid does....

I agree those are good fakes (as fakes go). And I'm surprised at the large number of bids as well. But I also think buying raw on eBay is fine if you limit your transactions to trusted sellers. I believe the graders at Greg Morris Cards compare favorably to any of the 3 TPGs that we are currently stuck with.

[conor912]

A while back i set up at a show and had a box of random $1 cards including a bunch of aged reprints. A guy went through the whole box and cherry picked every single one. We got to talking about them and had an interesting conversation. His take was that the only difference between a real card and a reprint was perceived value. He said something to the affect of, “I’m a collector, not an investor. Investors look for value, I collect images.” It was interesting to think about the psychology of the difference. I wish to God I was content with reprints....I would probably be writing this from my yacht if I was.

[ASF123]

Originally Posted by conor912

A while back i set up at a show and had a box of random $1 cards including a bunch of aged reprints. A guy went through the whole box and cherry picked every single one. We got to talking about them and had an interesting conversation. His take was that the only difference between a real card and a reprint was perceived value. He said something to the affect of, “I’m a collector, not an investor. Investors look for value, I collect images.” It was interesting to think about the psychology of the difference. I wish to God I was content with reprints....I would probably be writing this from my yacht if I was.

Ha, that was probably the same guy we're talking about now. He had a good cover story, though.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by conor912

A while back i set up at a show and had a box of random $1 cards including a bunch of aged reprints. A guy went through the whole box and cherry picked every single one. We got to talking about them and had an interesting conversation. His take was that the only difference between a real card and a reprint was perceived value. He said something to the affect of, “I’m a collector, not an investor. Investors look for value, I collect images.” It was interesting to think about the psychology of the difference. I wish to God I was content with reprints....I would probably be writing this from my yacht if I was.

It is awesome, like beyond words awesome. I have several reprint sets that I honestly like as much as most real cards I have ever owned.

I recently picked up a T206 reprint set. I have started the set and sold off the real cards 3 times because I just got burned out on it. Now I have them all and I really like owning them.

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

This seller is peddling all fakes...describes them as fakes...and people are still lining up????

https://www.ebay.com/sch/southernfri...p2047675.l2562

I'd line up for a fake vintage before I'd buy a legitimate modern

[Gary Dunaier]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

This seller is peddling all fakes...describes them as fakes...and people are still lining up????

The link provided in the original post (deleted from the quote here) now indicates the seller has 0 (zero) items for sale.